[Earthscapes]

Sorry Palmer, but a power plow will outplow a V plow all day and night long. Unless you're plowing in areas like you, star, Atgreene, Howard, Scott or breaking drifts, you can't beat the versatility and productivity of a power plow. We cut times by 30% on some lots when we switched from V's to Blizzards.

Mark your 100% correct and we tested that theory in open areas, but once you add wings to a 9'2" Boss V or a 9'5" Western V, that theory goes out the window.

 

[2COR517]

Mathematically they can carry more snow. Based strictly on area.

Thanks for not making me post the math again

But with the curvature of the moldboard of the power plows they will push or carry more snow.

That would become some pretty complicated math to prove.

Sorry Palmer, but a power plow will outplow a V plow all day and night long.
Unless you're plowing in areas like you, star, Atgreene, Howard, Scott or breaking drifts, you can't beat the versatility and productivity of a power plow. We cut times by 30% on some lots when we switched from V's to Blizzards.

Not going to argue in open lots the Blizzard style is the way to go vs. a straight blade or Vee plow.

Mark your 100% correct and we tested that theory in open areas, but once you add wings to a 9'2" Boss V or a 9'5" Western V, that theory goes out the window.

What do you have to say about that, Mark Oomkes?

 

[Mark Oomkes]

Not going to argue in open lots the Blizzard style is the way to go vs. a straight blade or Vee plow.



What do you have to say about that, Mark Oomkes?

That's too easy.

I can run up the road with an 8'6" plow legally without getting out of the truck. Keith can't.

Also, my Blizzards outscrape V's all day and all night. This results in less salt needed, which is a bonus on my all inclusive seasonals. :grinz

Piece of cake, my friend.

 

[2COR517]

I bet my XV scrapes as well as your Blizzard. And it has that neat clanging sound coming from the chain which keeps me awake. Does your Blizzard do that?

Does it? Huh, huh? Does it???

 

[Earthscapes]

That's too easy.

1. I can run up the road with an 8'6" plow legally without getting out of the truck. Keith can't.

2. Also, my Blizzards outscrape V's all day and all night. This results in less salt needed, which is a bonus on my all inclusive seasonals. :grinz

Piece of cake, my friend.

Ok before this thread goes the wrong direction.

1. 100% correct again, but I do.........Thats the thing with plowing the local fire hall, the NYSP barracks and my dad being a retired Sheriff, they seem to turn their heads when i'm driving by. One of these days i'll run into a rookie and that will all end..........

2. My straight outscrapes my V also. But all my salt is by the ton, so it don't matter to me.

Mustang, you have alot of good info in this thread. Good luck with whichever plow you chose.

 

[John DiMartino]

v plows are great for stacking snow.I owned 2 V plows as did my.cousin.After getting my first blizzard(thanks Pelican).I immediately sold my 9.2 boss V plow .There is no comparison in productivity and the quality of the work.As for adding wings to a V plow.The same can be done to a blizzard.then it will outpush a V by even more and leave the parking lot cleaner every time.I bought a second blizzard and an selling my western mvp now.
Btw one of the reasons i sold my boss was that after 2 yrs of commercial plowing the plow was tweaking already.welds were starting to crack.and the outer cylinder mounts were twisting on the moldboard.Then at Jerres when he removed the subframe we noticed it too was bowed in the middle very noticeably.Im running the 810 5 yrs on the s?e truck now and ive bent a few pins and had to weld a 3" section on the drivers side wing.thats it.This plow is built my stronger than either of my v plows....

 

[GSJ]

If you do get a V, get one with a trip edge. The Boss doesn't trip well. Once the wing gets tweaked it's all over in regards to scraping well. I think alot of guys don't even realize they have a bent wing. Hence the "my Boss V doesn't scrape well" remarks. We've had at least 10 8.2 V's and they all bent or ripped out the center hinge. The Blizzard has it's own set of problems. Real heavy, goes through alot of expensive cutting edges, the wing boxes are easy to bend and expensive to repair.

I'm leaning more towards setting up a truck with a 8 1/2 foot straight blade and rather than a 8' back blade use a swingwing type back blade. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Mark Oomkes]

If you do get a V, get one with a trip edge. The Boss doesn't trip well. Once the wing gets tweaked it's all over in regards to scraping well. I think alot of guys don't even realize they have a bent wing. Hence the "my Boss V doesn't scrape well" remarks. We've had at least 10 8.2 V's and they all bent or ripped out the center hinge. The Blizzard has it's own set of problems. Real heavy, goes through alot of expensive cutting edges, the wing boxes are easy to bend and expensive to repair.

I'm leaning more towards setting up a truck with a 8 1/2 foot straight blade and rather than a 8' back blade use a swingwing type back blade. Just my 2 cents.

True, very true.

I'm getting at least a season out of my Blizzard edges. As good as any other plow.

Wing box issue has been solved. At least on the 8611LP's. Only bent 2 full size 8611 wings in 8 seasons. No 810 wings bent.

 

[Mustang]

Well I decided I'm going to go with a Western MVP Plus with wings. Putting this on a 2007 F550. I'll post pics when I get her all set up.

 

[FERRERA10]

are you going to get the 9.5 model or 8.5 ?

 

[Earthscapes]

You will like the Western, it tilts with the pavement.

 

[Mark Oomkes]

Well I decided I'm going to go with a Western MVP Plus with wings. Putting this on a 2007 F550. I'll post pics when I get her all set up.

Good choice, at least you will be able to short chain it. opcorn

 

[Mustang]

Going with the 9.5. Got a price of $5,300 installed. Got a quote on a Boss 9.2 for $6,370 plus $400 shipping.

 

[2COR517]

Good choice, at least you will be able to short chain it. opcorn

You make-ah me laugh, wooden shoe man.

 

[Mustang]

Well I went to see a Blizzard today and I'm not so sure about the v anymore. From what I'm reading and heard today it seems both plows (the v with the wings) move a lot of snow long distances. The v is the way to go if stacking is the main priority or you need to break through high drifts (doesn't apply to my situation). The power plow is better at scraping. Power plow gets the nod in open situations.

One of my concerns with the power plow is that it doesn't trip in the scoop position. Is this a valid concern. Also, the edges on the power plow wear down quickly.

With my main concern being able to contain and move snow long distances the power plow may be the better choice. I would then have the option of a better plow for open lots as well since the v with wings will not scrape as well.

Bottom line: v for stacking, power plow for all else?

 

[marcs]

One of my concerns with the power plow is that it doesn't trip in the scoop position.

not sure how you got that info but I can assure I have tripped my 810 while in scoop positoin. Wings will 'flatten' back or "trip" back to the straight position, then the blade trips just like a regular straight blade. I'm not sure how some guys go thru edges the way they do, either. I guess I just don't plow enough snow. I have around 13 commercial accounts each yr, which equals a tightly-spaced 5 hour route; I have very little drive time between accounts. My 810 is entering its 5th season on the ORIGINAL edges, although Jerre did add me a set of winter edges before last winter IIRC, and it would probably make it all this yr with no problem. So while I'm sure the V has its uses, my vote is and always will be for the power plow hands down.

 

[Mark Oomkes]

Well I went to see a Blizzard today and I'm not so sure about the v anymore. From what I'm reading and heard today it seems both plows (the v with the wings) move a lot of snow long distances. The v is the way to go if stacking is the main priority or you need to break through high drifts (doesn't apply to my situation). The power plow is better at scraping. Power plow gets the nod in open situations.

One of my concerns with the power plow is that it doesn't trip in the scoop position. Is this a valid concern.

Hasn't been for me.

Also, the edges on the power plow wear down quickly.

Yup, just upgrade the edges. I suggest steel center and urethane wings, so far the best combo for me.

With my main concern being able to contain and move snow long distances the power plow may be the better choice. I would then have the option of a better plow for open lots as well since the v with wings will not scrape as well.

Bottom line: v for stacking, power plow for all else?

Power plows can stack. Don't fall into the only chain lifts can stack myth. If you doubt me, take a look at the lift mechanism on Boss V's.