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Acres per hour windrowing?

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#1 ·
Ok boys, believe it or not, I need some input. :wink I received a bid request and met with the manager today. The property is 3.25 acres broken up into 4 parts. 1st part is just under an acre, all windrowed to one side. 2nd part is 1/2 acre basically an aisle with parking on either side, wide open, split it down the middle and windrow to either side. 3rd section is 1.75 acres wide open, no obstacles, windrowed or pushed to 4 sides. 4th section is a little 1/10 acre guest lot. Anyway, this things going to be a lot of windrowing, with some straight ahead pushing. Almost all of my current lots are straight pushing, on which the lopro shines, getting times down around an acre an hour at 4". But, I have very little windowing times to compare to, especially with this blade. My question is what can I realistically expect for time per acre when windrowing (obviously less than straight pushing, but how much less)? :feedback

Trying to figure out how in the heck I'm going to fit this one into the route this year... :scramble
 
#3 ·
Brendan,

I wish I could give you times, but I can't. I will tell you that the Blizzard will really move the snow when windrowing. I like the fact that you don't have trailers to go pick up afterwards. My 810 cut an 1 1/2 off of our biggest account, over an 8 ft. Western, and most of this place is windrowed.
 
#4 ·
I would figure that at your typical 2" -1 acre per hour rate. for an "A" lot. I figure all lots at that rate with an a-b-c rating, for difficulty. You can give up 10% off (if it includes salt, I would go a bit more off, if it is zero tolerence adjust accordingly) that do to the effiecency of the Blizzard and still make a tidy profit.
IMO (without seeing the lot, it sounds easy enough) that lot could be done in under 2.5 hours with the Blizzard at 4".
 
#5 ·
Ok, let's see if this works. First pic is the primary lot near the building. All snow gets windrowed/pushed to the south side of the lot against the fence. I also envision a large pile near the back corner once things start to build up. Second is the t-shaped lot. The left part of it is an easy window to both sides deal, lots of room. The back part is open on all 4 sides, so really the snow can go anywhere. The pond on the south end is their property also, so I would expect to be pushing alot of it that direction. At over 3 acres, this would be my biggest lot. When they first contacted me, I thought no big deal, til they told me the lot across the street was theirs too... :eek: Oh, and yes on the salt! :cash
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#6 ·
I was thinking 1.75 hours for 3'' with a yellow 9 ft, non winged plow that can be shortchained. So that means you should be able to do it in about 1.25 hrs right? :wink
 
#12 ·
Add a Sidewing and you could be done in 5 minutes. Hold, on, that has a chain lift. OK, make it 7.19567823476 minutes.

I was joking on the 1.25. I figured that you or some other Blizzard guy would shoot back that the Blizzard would be 32.2365874641458% faster than my shortchain set-up and there fore............
Sorry I was so slow, I was working on new batteries in the decoder ring. :p
 
#7 ·
DJ, what's funny, is that I started laughing when I saw you had replied before even reading your post... :wink Seriously, thanks for the input, I was thinking about 2 hours on 4" which seems to be the average around here in the last couple years. Once I get a pattern down, I think it will be quicker. But, I think 1.25hrs on a 3.25 acre lot is being just a tad optimistic... :beatsme Maybe on a little 2" fluffer, but we dont get many of those...
 
#10 ·
I was joking on the 1.25. I figured that you or some other Blizzard guy would shoot back that the Blizzard would be 32.2365874641458% faster than my shortchain set-up and there fore............
 
#8 ·
For the most part that lot is an "A" lot. Wide open no obstacles. Looks like the front has some farting around. Measure it seperate and figure it a "B" at 85%.
So basically you have (guesing here) 2.75 acres of wide open plowing. So 4" storm would be 2.75 hours pick up 8' straight blade. Then you have .5 acre at 85% so add 35 to 40 minutes. So our total is about 3 hours 25 minutes for an 8' straight blade 4" storm average driver. That is basically an average rate in the industry. I would bid it for your "local average" hourly rate at 3.10 hours. The 8611 will give you a tidy profit then, and your price is reasonable for your neighborhood.
The 8611 LP will get done alot quicker. I said 2.5 this am that is plenty for 4" storm, it would probally be closer to 2.
I should also ask is this a 24/7 operation ? Those figures are for no cars or trucks, if there will be stuff scatered figure it at 70% of an acre an hour 4" storm 8' straight.
I allways figure all lots this way, its what I was taught, and keeps things simple. The bonus production of a bigger blade or pusher box is your profit. Sima has similar figures on there site. So this is not something I made up. The only variable is the hourly pricing.
 
#9 ·
The 8611 will give you a tidy profit then, and your price is reasonable for your neighborhood.
The 8611 LP will get done alot quicker. I said 2.5 this am that is plenty for 4" storm, it would probally be closer to 2.
I should also ask is this a 24/7 operation ? Those figures are for no cars or trucks, if there will be stuff scatered figure it at 70% of an acre an hour 4" storm 8' straight.
Sounds like I was just about right on with my initial guesses on timing.

Not a 24/7, the lots are comletely empty overnight except a couple trailers. Oh, and no sidewalks, definitely an "A" lot... Other than that little front lot, but I still suspect that little area to be under 10 minutes worth of work, and the fire lane around the building to be another 5-10 in addition to the main lot areas.
 
#11 ·
Brendan,
We always use 1 acre per hour for simple lots and decrease productivity from there for islands, docks etc. Based on 7.5 or 8 ft full sized truck and 2-4". You will get more production than that as you learn the lot. (or get wide :grinz ) But that production rate seems to always keep us in the hunt for jobs. And we generally don't miss-estimate by much. :cash