Blizzard Speedwing

cja1987 · Sep 2, 2005

Hello All, I for one am really starting to think about snow season eventhough its september. Looking at blizzards site, I was very impressed with the new speedwing avilable in 760SW and 860SW. It seems like a really cool and efficient design. Iam also impressed with how well built this plow is and how strong it looks yet they still manage to bring the benefits of a power plow to people running 1/2 tons. Very well designed plow, i look foward to seeing it in person. One question that I do have, maybe jerre can answer, is about the plow being locked in straight position for back dragging as it says on blizzards site. Would angling the blade cancel that out and make the wings work again or is there an option to use it has a conventional straight plow while angled.?

What are everyones thoughts on this plow, I know its not as big as the 810, but I think its a nice idea for smaller commercial settings where 10' max would rarely be of any benefit. Good even for driveways to be able to move snow around and not have to chase trails from your plow specifically when you have to push across the street since its illegal in most areas and if you have to resort to it, your not spending 5 mins in the middle of the street.

Jerre Heyer · Sep 2, 2005

Chris, Each wing has a location to put a locking pin when the plow is angled to the side. First you angle to one side and instert the pin and then to the other side and insert that pin. = Straight blade. After serious thought and alot of use of an 810 I don't really think I'd pin one back. The distance from a wall or door is about a shovel width and if it's that critical of a drive I'd be shoveling close to the door first. Jerre

QMVA · Oct 3, 2005

I am also very interested in the 760sw. Especially sense I found out I might be getting a plow for my F-150 :rockon . Is it bad for the blade if I backdrag with the wings unlocked. Also do the wing get pushed back when the pressure from the snow it to much for them.

T-Zab · Oct 3, 2005

I took a good look at these plows yesterday at Jerre's. I was very impressed with the design and construction of these. I really feel if I was in the market for a new half ton plow this would be it.
Todd

Joey D · Oct 3, 2005

I think Blizzard should just jump right in and make a 6-8 and a 7-9 plow and be done with it. I can't see buying a plow where you would have to get out and lock the pins in.
Make the 7-9 light enough for the 1/2 tons and the 6-8 light enough for a jeep or small truck.

T-Zab · Oct 3, 2005

Joey D said:
I think Blizzard should just jump right in and make a 6-8 and a 7-9 plow and be done with it. I can't see buying a plow where you would have to get out and lock the pins in.
Make the 7-9 light enough for the 1/2 tons and the 6-8 light enough for a jeep or small truck.

Joey I think your missing the point on this plow.
It is a lighter weight plow, as in less weight. Adding cylinders, lines and manifolds adds up to more weight. Also the expense for these options would price it out of the market it was designed for.
This plow is competeing with straight blades not v-s or power plows.
Blizzard has taken a straight blade and made it more efficent.
As jerre stated you dont need to pin anything back if you dont want too. You dont have to get out to pin the blades back for anything except for a couple of inches of clearence Clarence LOL.
Todd

4evergreenlawns · Oct 3, 2005

Joey,

Listen to what Todd is telling you. He is in the know on the Blizzard product line he just bought one and personally met Jerre.

As for your idea about a 6-8 and a 7-9, as previously mentioned by Todd the Blizzard Guru, most people plowing in the market you are talking about 1) are not plowing where the configuration of Wings will really change things much and 2) are not going to invest in the $$ in owning a Blizzard Plow. I know if I was not plowing commercial lots where ever minute saved is $$$ in my pocket I would most likely have keep with the Western Plows I owned. Owning 2 810's and know a 8611 LoPro equaly what most would spend on a truck alone.

The Speed wing in its current producting will help those people in areas where snow plowing means being out serveral times a week all winter long and every truck with a plow will be pushing some amount of snow.

Pickering Snow · Oct 3, 2005

Speed Wings

Kinda Confused??? Ron

Lets not start heading down the guru road !!!! Has far has someone knowing how a product works or meeting Jerre or having Jerre install a plow doesnt mean they are or trying to be a guru. I know Jerre well enough and know that he is to humble to except that status even.

Iam sorry if it sounds like iam jumpy or defending Todd which iam . I guess a person can make what ever they want out of the whole Erie deal i dont give a rip i know this however for a fact " save a penny save a dime break down at 2am your butt is on the line".

What all of us that have met Jerre and bought plows from him Pelican, Johnny D , Myself, now Todd , Everett, and if the count is right about a dozen more is this when you leave there you do know how your plow works you know how to change or make repairs at 3am your "given" the spare parts to do so and if not Jerre's the only guy i have met in 17yrs that will answer his phone at 2am to walk you threw.

Joey
Iam with you it would be neat to see mini power plows but it really does come down to cost and who would buy them in volume so the speed wings help the 1/2 ton market and are probley gonna become big sellers.

chtucker · Oct 3, 2005

Honestly, I wish the made the speed wing in the 810, 8611 or bigger.

What it does in action is exactly what I do hyrdaulically with my 810 currently. Except I have hoses and cylinders to deal with. The functions of the speedwing are what I do for about 6 hours of every storm. Leading edge curled, trailing straight, scoop to move piles.

With the weight reduction they could get 912lopros on 1 tons.

You are "not supposed" to back drag an 810 with the wings out, so no loss there.

It is great idea. I would only buy another Blizzard with Jerre's mods though. Every blizzard should come with the manifold flip and the stops at least (I have a few more things in my head before I would buy another).

Howard

Jerre Heyer · Oct 3, 2005

Honestly, I wish the made the speed wing in the 810, 8611 or bigger.

With plasma these things are possible.....Jerre

Joey D · Oct 3, 2005

T-Zab said:
Joey I think your missing the point on this plow.
It is a lighter weight plow, as in less weight. Adding cylinders, lines and manifolds adds up to more weight. Also the expense for these options would price it out of the market it was designed for.
This plow is competeing with straight blades not v-s or power plows.
Blizzard has taken a straight blade and made it more efficent.
As jerre stated you dont need to pin anything back if you dont want too. You dont have to get out to pin the blades back for anything except for a couple of inches of clearence Clarence LOL.
Todd

I can see there target with the speedwing I just think they should have gone all the way with it. They could have made it light enough for the duty of a 1/2 ton or little truck.

Joey D · Oct 3, 2005

4evergreenlawns said:
Joey,

Listen to what Todd is telling you. He is in the know on the Blizzard product line he just bought one and personally met Jerre.

As for your idea about a 6-8 and a 7-9, as previously mentioned by Todd the Blizzard Guru, most people plowing in the market you are talking about 1) are not plowing where the configuration of Wings will really change things much and 2) are not going to invest in the $$ in owning a Blizzard Plow. I know if I was not plowing commercial lots where ever minute saved is $$$ in my pocket I would most likely have keep with the Western Plows I owned. Owning 2 810's and know a 8611 LoPro equaly what most would spend on a truck alone.

The Speed wing in its current producting will help those people in areas where snow plowing means being out serveral times a week all winter long and every truck with a plow will be pushing some amount of snow.

Ron, If I drive down and meet Jerre will my posts here all of a sudden gain more knowledge? :huh

BRL · Oct 3, 2005

mmmmm........

Plasma :weld

(to the voice of Homer when speaking of donuts

)

I agree trying to make a 7-9 or 8-10 for a small truck is overkill, and not worth the effort on Blizzard's part. People get out & put pins intheir plow wings which are light additions to straight plows to make them wider (and that's 3 pins per side, not just one), so I'm sure people will be willing to pin these Sidewings when or if they need to.

These Blizzard plows are well constructed & look heavy. Most of the straight blades I've seen specs for are heavier than most of the 1\2 tons they are on recommend, so I would bet a plain Blizzard straight blade is maxxing out truck capabilities, let alone trying to add all the hydros etc. to make the hydro wings for a small plow for a small truck. I'm no engineer but having seen a few of these Blizzard plows, I don't believe they can be simply made light enough for light duty trucks.

BRL · Oct 3, 2005

Joey D said:
Ron, If I drive down and meet Jerre will my posts here all of a sudden gain more knowledge? :huh

Joey,
I completely understand where you are coming from with that, and would usually be one to post such a comment. But in this case the actual answer to that question is a resolute yes. Hard to believe but I've experienced it & learned an incredible amount of stuff hanging out with him for only a small period of time (and I'm not talking about just plow stuff either). Thanks for sharing all that you did Jerre!

BWhite · Oct 3, 2005

Joey D said:
Ron, If I drive down and meet Jerre will my posts here all of a sudden gain more knowledge? :huh

All one has to do is rub Jerre's head and one will become enlightened in the way of the Blizzard .

Pelican · Oct 3, 2005

Part of the reason for retractable wings is to keep the plow DOT legal. Maximum width on any part of the truck is 8'6", otherwise you need an overwidth permit. The wings on the SpeedWing don't retract, they reposition themselves according to where the plow is positioned.

snowplowjay · Oct 4, 2005

Pelican said:
Part of the reason for retractable wings is to keep the plow DOT legal. Maximum width on any part of the truck is 8'6", otherwise you need an overwidth permit. The wings on the SpeedWing don't retract, they reposition themselves according to where the plow is positioned.

So based on spec' the Danger Wings would be totally DOT illegal on that sized truck from what I understand...........Am I correct in that thinking. That would make sense as to why Blizzard hasn't gone further into making a 1012 etc..????

Just curious

Jay

chtucker · Oct 4, 2005

LEGAL?!?!? There is a guy who plows one liquor store here that drives around with a 4x4 backhoe and a 16' push box.... the same guy does driveways with hoe (just the bucket)... He used to plow the school district (8 acres), and the grocery store (1.5 acres) and the pizza hut... Now he doesn't.... wonder who is doing it now :rolling (except for the school district)

It is a limited market, but here in Colorado you could get way with a 10' plow as long as you stayed off the state highways, legally.

Howard

Jerre Heyer · Oct 4, 2005

Jay, The DOT thing is different in every state.

Federal limits exist at 12' some areas at 10'. The 10-12 or 10-14 is totally feasable if put on the right truck. This would be a massive plow and would be a full hydraulic option most likely.

A lo profile version would still be pretty heavy. In comparison to other MFG's 10' plows the 86-11 is right on target and gains are much better overall. To take the step to a larger plow would require more weight to take the use ( abuse ).

Pa DOT as well as several other states have a NO OVERWIDTH restriction for snow removal equipment. Several states have a Pay for excess tag and then no over width.

Danger wings were named due the the danger of carrying too much snow. You can over do anything if you try hard enough. They came about due to the extremes of snow we get here. Wet one time and fluffy the next. In each snow we plow differently but when you can use the width why not take advantage of it.

The smaller versions of the 810 are as discussed above kind of impractical for the light trucks. The speedwings are going to be a great add on. If anything I like Howard's idea of a 10' speedwing for the big trucks and a 6'8" speedwing for the compact trucks. The bigger plow would be great for areas like his and the smaller for sidewalk and small lot trucks.

Sorry......you'll have to rub again for more.

Jerre

snowplowjay · Oct 4, 2005

Thanks for the info Jerre!!!

Since the future of snow removal equipment looks to be highly based on the "Get Wide" revolution this should be an interesting topic to follow

Jay

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