Im submitting a proposal for a trucking facility that wants 8 acres of their location plowed. I had a sub put together numbers for me to push 2 to 4" using a truck/plow and a loader/pusher - what do you think is a fair time estimate? I am arguing that it can be done in 2.5-3 hours (w/ both pieces), sub says he needs at least 6 hours for both pieces.
8 acres - whats your time estimate?
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Im submitting a proposal for a trucking facility that wants 8 acres of their location plowed. I had a sub put together numbers for me to push 2 to 4" using a truck/plow and a loader/pusher - what do you think is a fair time estimate? I am arguing that it can be done in 2.5-3 hours (w/ both pieces), sub says he needs at least 6 hours for both pieces.
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I'm reading this thread with interest. I don't do parking lots and haven't got a clue how to bid them or how long they take. Or really how to plan my attack on one. Clearly the shape matters, long and skinny easy, square would make clearing the middle time consuming (I think, farther to push).
To me, 8 acres seems huge.
To me, 8 acres seems huge.
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here we go - the green area is what is to be plowed.
dimensions are like this:
front cube: 400' x 250
area to left of facility: 167'w x 345' L
area to bottom of facility: 474'L x 154'w
area to right of facility: 280'w x 388' L
the sub's argument is that its going to take longer since the pavement is in rough shape - a few larger potholes, etc.
I dont have time on any of my trucks but if I did, I am nearly sure it can be done with two trucks in well under 4 hours - add a 14' pusher and I dont see where the sub is coming from.
Im going to submit the proposal with his numbers because I truly do not care if I get this but I will be shocked if this comes through.
dimensions are like this:
front cube: 400' x 250
area to left of facility: 167'w x 345' L
area to bottom of facility: 474'L x 154'w
area to right of facility: 280'w x 388' L
the sub's argument is that its going to take longer since the pavement is in rough shape - a few larger potholes, etc.
I dont have time on any of my trucks but if I did, I am nearly sure it can be done with two trucks in well under 4 hours - add a 14' pusher and I dont see where the sub is coming from.
Im going to submit the proposal with his numbers because I truly do not care if I get this but I will be shocked if this comes through.
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Never used a 14' pusher, but depending on where the snow goes, 3-4 hours tops.
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Question are the dock door to be plowed out also. Will the trailers be parked all over the lot like they are in the picture. We have done a lot of these over the years. Any time trailers and trucks are all over the place it adds a lot of time to the clean up.
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two proposals went out last night - one for a seasonal and one for 2-4" per push. Im hiring the sub on a per push basis, hourly over 4". I did bid the seasonal very high, over $40k. I dont think there is a prayer of me getting this but if I do, I will be ecstatic.
I dont think the trailers will be all over the place as when I went their at 7am yesterday, the place was a graveyard. It might be though, I dont really know.
Mark, Im with you on the time estimate but in this case, its not up to me.
I dont think the trailers will be all over the place as when I went their at 7am yesterday, the place was a graveyard. It might be though, I dont really know.
Mark, Im with you on the time estimate but in this case, its not up to me.
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I talked with the contact today and apparently they are getting references from a company who bid it at $15k for the season - I have to wonder what the caps are because I just dont see how it can be an open-ended deal.
I was told that last year, the winning bidder got it for $5k for the season. I just shook my head and laughed. At least that is an indication of the type of client they are.
I was told that last year, the winning bidder got it for $5k for the season. I just shook my head and laughed. At least that is an indication of the type of client they are.
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OK, I've never done lots. But $5K???????????? No way!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yeah, I have a few zero tolerance properties that are under an acre that each spent that much last year.OK, I've never done lots. But $5K???????????? No way!!!!!!!!!!!!
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My thoughts exactly. I think that they would be closer to $300 per push.
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JAA\J-hole wannabe in GR. Been lowballing anybody and everybody for the past few years. Wants to be the 'Biggest in GR' or some crap like that, so he doesn't care about pricing. Regularly 1/3 to 1/2 of other contractors. Even will beat contractors I would consider lowballers by 1/3.
He used to even post here, but now I think he just lurks and tries to get info without helping anyone else but himself.
Maybe $600.00 per time is high. They can't make it up in productivity. I've watched them trying to plow a lot next to me with a pickup and a loader with a 20' daniels on it. I realized quickly that the loader "driver" had no idea what he was doing and neither did the guy in the pickup.
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You too?
I have watched his subs, what a freakin' joke.
One started at the curb line and pushed all the snow towards the building. I was salting across the street and ran out, went back to fill up and finish salting, idiot was still there. 20 minute job at most, he was there for over 45 minutes and still far from finished.
Another time guy was plowing the entrances off a road. Pushed it in and left it in a pile--could have kept pushing all the way to the end of the drive which was the back of the building--and ended up with a 7-8' pile at least 20' in diameter and nowhere to go with it.
Must be paying peanuts for monkeys to operate his equipment and subs.
He's at about $55.00 per acre per push. Don't ask me how I found that out.
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