Blizzard has become JUNK

mikegamb · Mar 21, 2009

What the h@ll did they do to the blizzard line. My god my lawn tractor plow has a heavier push beam than the new blizzards got. They turned them into the weak western wideout crap. I guess they want to just close up blizzard they already canned 4 dealers up here. the one new dealer up here has the new 810 with what looks like an ultra mount setup. the mold board has no bracing of any kind no rear support to the slide boxes. don't even get me started on the paper thin wings or the A frame either

What complete JUNK

hlntoiz · Mar 21, 2009

Jerre posted pics on the NETA Thread of the blizzards. I may try and find one in a box and keep it for future use

Snowboy · Mar 22, 2009

Anyone think Portsmouth ford in NH is going to stop selling the blizzards? They sell a ton. I bought my LP off them this winter and it was new old stock.

blizzard123 · Mar 23, 2009

????

Normally, I would not respond to a thread like this... Just to clarify, we have not yet begun to ship any of the new style plows, so I would be curious to know which distributor you are talking about?? Moreover, we have not changed the construction of the moldboard nor have we changed the gauge of the wings. It sounds like you have been mislead.

Steve Dewey
N.A.S.M.
Blizzard Snowplows
A Division of Douglas Dynamics, L.L.C.

mikegamb · Mar 23, 2009

well compared to my 2004 and 2006 blizzards there is a huge difference in construction and quality. From what I've seen in person by your blizzard rep here there are major issues with your new plows that will prevent me from buying another blizzard. Every brand snow plow has it's issues however you took a good producted and turned it into a snow bear quality plow.

That new push beam wouldn't last an hour with me let alone the A frame. Having the lift system lower isn't going to fly with me. the original is low enough and I'm always hitting things with it regardless

Big Dog D · Mar 23, 2009

You guys need to give it time. Look at all of the comments that were mad about the XLS when it was originally debued. Even the Fisher lovers had their doubts and it has been an excellent unit for me now for two of the snowiest seasons that we've had in a long time. IMHDAO DD isn't going to take a very popular line and drive it into the ground just for the hell of it. If there wasn't evoulution in this industry we'd all be in the snow rolling business rather than the snow removal business. :wink

hlntoiz · Mar 23, 2009

Big Dog D said:
You guys need to give it time. Look at all of the comments that were mad about the XLS when it was originally debued. Even the Fisher lovers had their doubts and it has been an excellent unit for me now for two of the snowiest seasons that we've had in a long time. IMHDAO DD isn't going to take a very popular line and drive it into the ground just for the hell of it. If there wasn't evoulution in this industry we'd all be in the snow rolling business rather than the snow removal business. :wink

DJ, We will see how what is said. Most are pissed that changes in the latching system.

Why doesn't DD make it simple. Keep the fishers Straight blades, the western "V's" and the Blizzard wide outs. If you want any of them you have to buy that brand! JMO

PS. Love your quote in your sig

mikegamb · Mar 23, 2009

hlntoiz said:
DJ, We will see how what is said. Most are pissed that changes in the latching system.

Why doesn't DD make it simple. Keep the fishers Straight blades, the western "V's" and the Blizzard wide outs. If you want any of them you have to buy that brand! JMO

I agree if I wanted the western or fisher junk I would be buying that brand still

snowjoker · Mar 23, 2009

I think you need to run one before you bitch about it..... Think about all the conventional mount owners,unimount owners and mm1 owners who had fleets of plows before their updated plow mount systems came into the world... I feel 10 years unchanged is pretty dam good. Really bothers me you "professionals" are slamming on a new product and none of you have even used it. Grow some Balls like Fred did last fall, buy one and test it out, then give your opinion, you may just get the opportunity to eat your words ! I am not defending the new design, nor am i dissing it. I have seen seen blizzard plows and have my own opinion on what should be done from my fabrication experience, and things would be way different.

Welcome aboard Steve ! Glad you are here to join us

mikegamb · Mar 23, 2009

snowjoker said:
I think you need to run one before you bitch about it..... Think about all the conventional mount owners,unimount owners and mm1 owners who had fleets of plows before their updated plow mount systems came into the world... I feel 10 years unchanged is pretty dam good. Really bothers me you "professionals" are slamming on a new product and none of you have even used it. Grow some Balls like Fred did last fall, buy one and test it out, then give your opinion, you may just get the opportunity to eat your words ! I am not defending the new design, nor am i dissing it. I have seen seen blizzard plows and have my own opinion on what should be done from my fabrication experience, and things would be way different.

Welcome aboard Steve ! Glad you are here to join us

like I said if I wanted a western or fisher I would buy one

Pickering Snow · Mar 23, 2009

hlntoiz said:
DJ, We will see how what is said. Most are pissed that changes in the latching system.

Why doesn't DD make it simple. Keep the fishers Straight blades, the western "V's" and the Blizzard wide outs. If you want any of them you have to buy that brand! JMO

PS. Love your quote in your sig

Matt

The fact the DD bought out the Blizzard line is a thing of the past, they paid for the pat rights to do has they please.

Has for Fisher making striaghts, Western making V's is silly, if you had been a loyal Fisher owner why not give them what they want has well. The XLS iam sorry to rain on everyones parade performed has well as a Blizzard . I wont comment on the Wideout because i didnt run one.

Mike G thats a pretty strong statement that you can tear the new draw latch up and push beam in less than a hour.

Dave GMC driver says it best the way i look at it taking away interchange would be the biggest issue with the new Blizzard line up . I made several comments and i will man up to it towards John Murphy about being able to make short work of the XLS and i humbley corrected it when the blade pushed 49 events last year and looked close to what it did at the begining of the season .

With Steve saying none of these units have been shipped and you saying you have seen one in CT already starts to eat away at your criedtabilty.

No one was more disturbed with the Changing of the gaurd with DD and Blizzard than me but iam not gonna live in the past anymore its a done deal and again they need not prove anything to me with the performace of the XLS last year.

I think its one thing to attack a product when you own it and its failing on you in a hour of plowing but to not own one of these new units and make the comments you are is just speculation.

mikegamb · Mar 23, 2009

well in my area there are only 2 guys who ran a western wide out and the fisher XLS.

I had a wide out and couldn't wait to get rid of it. I beleive in giving things a shot however after plowing 2 storms with it I was happy to see it go.

It was a floater not a scraping plow. I couldn't even push a pile of snow with it. it would just ride over the pile.

The XLS well that guy ended up buying a blizzard after one season. the rubber wing edges were lasting one storm. He had two controlers burn up also

yes my dealer had the new push beam and A frame with the light tower mounted to it. I was told that's what they'll be using for 2009. weather it's for an 810 or not I'm told that's what they will be using on all plows.

I wouldn't risk one of my trucks or one of my plow drivers using that new setup. If they don't bend that push beam they will most likely hit something with that lift cyclinder hanging down so low. might even rip the A frame apart because of it

hlntoiz · Mar 23, 2009

I would be glad to run a new Blizzard but I can't put it on my truck without major surgery. I think the only reason they changed it was to get the damn light bar on it. For no other reason. If there is another reason please explain. As for performance I never said it wouldn't perform. I just don't like the fact that if I want to buy another 8611 for my 6500 I can't

DD can do what every they want. If I had the money they have I would too. Like Dave said, why change a product that works good? If they where going to make changes, Maybe putting back in pump motors gears that won't break at 1:30am would be a good start. Instead of putting in a cheeper version. How about the #1 thing that all blizzard owners don't like. The powder coat sucks! Maybe if they made a SS version that wouldn't be an issue. But I guess Happy Home owner wouldn't buy such an expensive plow.

lilweeds · Mar 23, 2009

Mike that was probably the LT mount, and yes that is the new design. I would love them to make an adapter to go from new to old. We'd all love to see that!

Pickering Snow · Mar 24, 2009

Quote: The XLS well that guy ended up buying a blizzard after one season. the rubber wing edges were lasting one storm. He had two controlers burn up also

Mike one storm on edges??? 38hrs per set was what i was getting with mine on my XLS . Jerre Also talked about ride up with his Wideout as well, however back to the XLS edges those are some pretty long running storms you get out there :wink.

The XLS with Jerre's and Polars designed Uedge stoped that problem and again i will defend the XLS its has close to its White cousin has your gonna get minus the rust.

blizzard123 · Mar 24, 2009

mikegamb said:
well in my area there are only 2 guys who ran a western wide out and the fisher XLS.

I had a wide out and couldn't wait to get rid of it. I beleive in giving things a shot however after plowing 2 storms with it I was happy to see it go.

It was a floater not a scraping plow. I couldn't even push a pile of snow with it. it would just ride over the pile.

The XLS well that guy ended up buying a blizzard after one season. the rubber wing edges were lasting one storm. He had two controlers burn up also

yes my dealer had the new push beam and A frame with the light tower mounted to it. I was told that's what they'll be using for 2009. weather it's for an 810 or not I'm told that's what they will be using on all plows.

I wouldn't risk one of my trucks or one of my plow drivers using that new setup. If they don't bend that push beam they will most likely hit something with that lift cyclinder hanging down so low. might even rip the A frame apart because of it

Mike,

I believe you are referring to the 7600LT that we introduced last season for the half-ton truck market. This plow weighed in at approximately 450 lbs. to accomadate a wide range of half-ton trucks on the market today. Rest assured that although the new HD plow is based on the same platform as the 7600LT it does not share all of the same components. The new HD design will utilize a heavy duty tubular A-frame, large cylinders, 3 1/2" lift cylinder, etc... I was intimately involved with the development of the new design, and I am confident that commercial snow removal contractors such a s yourself will be impressed by its beefy construction.

Steve Dewey
N.A.S.M.
Blizzard Snowplows
A Division of Douglas Dynamics, L.L.C.

Deere John · Mar 25, 2009

All calm on this topic after 24 hours. It looks like the jury has probably been charged and will deliberate this one. In all fairness, expect a verdict next January?

Joneso8 · Jun 29, 2009

I ran a blizzard 810 for three years until i put a leveling kit on my 06 gmc 2500hd. Blizzard had no way to accomodate for the front of the truck being higher than stock. I had no choice but to go to a wideout. Let me tell you, my wideout is as good if not better than my blizzard 810. I think the new blizzards will be much better than the previous ones. DD did an awsome job on the wideout. Try a new blizzard before you make any opinion about it.

Jerre Heyer · Jun 29, 2009

Well there used to be a mount for the lifted trucks. Many of the dealers didn't know about them or didn't want to stock a mount for un common use. We often customized them for guys that wanted the solid axle or a 6" plus lift.

As for the wideout plowing better than the Blizzards did. To each his own but I don't like my plow to ride up and over I want it to scrape.

Jerre

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