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I remember a few years ago all hired contractors that plowed for the state had to run two 6" blinking red lights on the tailgate of 6 wheelers & bigger trucks, that was until cops starting pulling guy's over for having red lights, there reasoning behind this was only fire department vehicles can have red lights...You mean to tell me that people would mistake a 10 wheel dump truck with a 11' hunk of steel hanging off the front for a fire truck :eek:...only in Massachusetts
 

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Sooooo I guess the way I look at it is when I finish one job and I'm driving to my next..... Is Much like a fire truck going from one fire to another ....Or an ambulance going from on accident to another...Hmmmm :D

Really??

You're going to compare a plow jockey with a fire truck going to a fire?
 

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I remember a few years ago all hired contractors that plowed for the state had to run two 6" blinking red lights on the tailgate of 6 wheelers & bigger trucks, that was until cops starting pulling guy's over for having red lights, there reasoning behind this was only fire department vehicles can have red lights...You mean to tell me that people would mistake a 10 wheel dump truck with a 11' hunk of steel hanging off the front for a fire truck :eek:...only in Massachusetts
A flashing red light on the tailgate wouldn't be visible from the front so are you not allowed red turn signal lights or red rear 4 way flashers in Mass?:rolleyes:

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I have a State Trooper that lives on one of the roads I plow. The last time I was in there plowing he was coming out I stopped him and asked him about running flashing lights all the time and he told me that as far as he was knew there was NO law saying you couldn't...He also added he thought it was a good idea ..
He needs to study his law book then. Have him call the Westbrook Police department, they know about it. One of my drivers was pulled over and given a warning a few years ago.
 

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Here you go.

http://janus.state.me.us/legis/ros/lom/LOM121st/5Pub201-250/Pub201-250-16.htm



CHAPTER 209
H.P. 156 - L.D. 197

An Act to Require Flashing Lights for Private Snow Plows

Be it enacted by the People of the State of Maine as follows:

Sec. 1. 29-A MRSA §2054, sub-§2, ¶C, as amended by PL 2001, c. 360, §6, is further amended to read:

C. The use of amber lights on vehicles is governed by the following.

(1) A vehicle engaged in highway maintenance or in emergency rescue operations by civil defense and public safety agencies and a public utility emergency service vehicle may be equipped with auxiliary lights that emit an amber light.
(2) A wrecker must be equipped with a flashing light mounted on top of the vehicle in such a manner as to emit an amber light over a 360° angle. The light must be in use on a public way or a place where public traffic may reasonably be anticipated when servicing, freeing, loading, unloading or towing a vehicle.
(3) A vehicle engaged in snow removal or sanding operations on a public way must be equipped with and display at least 2 auxiliary lights mounted on the highest practical point on the vehicle and provide visible light coverage over a 360° range. The lights must emit an amber beam of light, be at least 6 inches in diameter and be equipped with blinking attachments. In lieu of the lights specified, a vehicle may be equipped with at least one auxiliary rotating flashing light having 4-inch sealed beams and showing amber beams of light over a 360° range or an amber strobe, or combination of strobes, that emits at a minimum a beam of 1,000,000 candlepower and provides visible light coverage over a 360° range. When the left wing of a plow is in operation and extends over the center of the road, an auxiliary light must show the extreme end of the left wing. That light may be attached to the vehicle so that the beam of light points at the left wing. The light illuminating the left wing may be controlled by a separate switch or by the regular lighting system and must be in operation at all times when the vehicle is used for plowing snow on public ways.
(4) A vehicle equipped and used for plowing snow on other than public ways may be equipped with an auxiliary rotary flashing light that must be mounted on top of the vehicle in such a manner as to emit an amber beam of light over a 360° angle, or an amber strobe, or combination of strobes, that emits at a minimum a beam of 1,000,000 50 candlepower and provides visible light coverage over a 360° range. However, the vehicle must be equipped with and must use such a light whenever the vehicle enters a public way while in the course of plowing private driveways and other off-highway locations. The light may be in use on a public way only when the vehicle is entering the public way in the course of plowing private driveways and other off-highway locations.
(5) A rural mail vehicle may be equipped with auxiliary lights.



Found this in a post by our own A.T. Greene. :D
 

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Really??

You're going to compare a plow jockey with a fire truck going to a fire?
Not at all..... There was a comment earlier about Firetrucks using thier red lights going to a fire, and notusing them when they are going back to station.... I was only commenting that plowguys are going from one job to the next and to the next.... and not heading home...So runiing the lights from one plowjob to the next should be ok...
 

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Not at all..... There was a comment earlier about Firetrucks using thier red lights going to a fire, and notusing them when they are going back to station.... I was only commenting that plowguys are going from one job to the next and to the next.... and not heading home...So runiing the lights from one plowjob to the next should be ok...
And in the process totally ignored the part aboot plows not following traffic patterns when plowing but when traveling from account to account you should be following normal traffic patterns. Which is the point of any and all warning lights.

Read and reread the rest of the post. Don't just pick out part of it that fits your needs.

Do you ride around all day with your turn signals stuck on?

How about hazards\4-ways?

Brake lights?

No, because they are there to signal that something is different, either you are turning, going to slow or stopped or slowing down\stopping.

I thought you were being sarcastic, which I still hope, because your analogy made no sense at all.
 

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On when plowing, or sanding. Off when traveling. If the storm gets to white out conditions and visibility is 0 I put the light back on. I see some guys still have the light on 2-3 days after the storm. I have been plowing for 40 years and was never told by anyone official that I should turn it on or off.
 

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So, you guys that turn your warning lights on from start to finish, answer me one question:

When's the last time you saw a fire engine\ambo\police car running lights and siren back to the station\donut shop\etc?

They're warning lights for a reason, warning people of abnormal driving--sudden stop\turns\backing up\etc. This is to warn people that a plow or salter is not following "normal" driving patterns and when you're going up the road from account to account, you should be following normal driving patterns.

Bet most of you would piss and moan about fire\ambo\popo driving all over with their lights on, and eventually people would ignore them (more than they already do) and would make warning lights pointless.

Only exceptions I can understand are SMV's or wide loads.

JMO
And in the process totally ignored the part aboot plows not following traffic patterns when plowing but when traveling from account to account you should be following normal traffic patterns. Which is the point of any and all warning lights.

Read and reread the rest of the post. Don't just pick out part of it that fits your needs.

Do you ride around all day with your turn signals stuck on?

How about hazards\4-ways?

Brake lights?

No, because they are there to signal that something is different, either you are turning, going to slow or stopped or slowing down\stopping.

I thought you were being sarcastic, which I still hope, because your analogy made no sense at all.
Once in a while I agree with this guy....
 

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Here is the law in Ohio and altho there are restrictions on using flashing lights ( depending how much you read into it) It sounds to me like snow plows are exempt. ( see section (C)(1) )


4513.17 Limit on number of lights.

(A) Whenever a motor vehicle equipped with headlights also is equipped with any auxiliary lights or spotlight or any other light on the front thereof projecting a beam of an intensity greater than three hundred candle power, not more than a total of five of any such lights on the front of a vehicle shall be lighted at any one time when the vehicle is upon a highway.

(B) Any lighted light or illuminating device upon a motor vehicle, other than headlights, spotlights, signal lights, or auxiliary driving lights, that projects a beam of light of an intensity greater than three hundred candle power, shall be so directed that no part of the beam will strike the level of the roadway on which the vehicle stands at a distance of more than seventy-five feet from the vehicle.

(C)(1) Flashing lights are prohibited on motor vehicles, except as a means for indicating a right or a left turn, or in the presence of a vehicular traffic hazard requiring unusual care in approaching, or overtaking or passing. This prohibition does not apply to emergency vehicles, road service vehicles servicing or towing a disabled vehicle, traffic line stripers, snow plows, rural mail delivery vehicles, vehicles as provided in section 4513.182 of the Revised Code, department of transportation maintenance vehicles, funeral hearses, funeral escort vehicles, and similar equipment operated by the department or local authorities, which shall be equipped with and display, when used on a street or highway for the special purpose necessitating such lights, a flashing, oscillating, or rotating amber light, but shall not display a flashing, oscillating, or rotating light of any other color, nor to vehicles or machinery permitted by section 4513.11 of the Revised Code to have a flashing red light.


All that being said, I think you should only use the flashing light when ACTUALLY in the process of plowing snow, and not when the truck is being used as general transportation, witch in my opinion would include going from one job site to the next.
 

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well once again I somehow managed to get pulled over by my local police dept. This time it was midnight after the last storm I was out plowing and shoveling fire hydrants. I have a 3yr contract with the town to clear 550+ hydrants. Anyway I was pulled over because of my back work lights. The lights are 4 35 watt tractor utilty lights. two up on the top of my headboard shining pointing down and two just below my hitch on my truck. I have a 9ft flat body and I have a Fisher sander on the back, which is why I have the lights. the officer said that these lights were a distraction to other drivers that were coming up behind me. I clearly stated to him that I am on both sides of the road, and that I am in and out of the vehicle and need to be able to see and be seen. he said I would receive a summons if he caught me doing it again....I really need to find the laws and regulations for maine governing vehicle lighting.
 

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well once again I somehow managed to get pulled over by my local police dept. This time it was midnight after the last storm I was out plowing and shoveling fire hydrants. I have a 3yr contract with the town to clear 550+ hydrants. Anyway I was pulled over because of my back work lights. The lights are 4 35 watt tractor utilty lights. two up on the top of my headboard shining pointing down and two just below my hitch on my truck. I have a 9ft flat body and I have a Fisher sander on the back, which is why I have the lights. the officer said that these lights were a distraction to other drivers that were coming up behind me. I clearly stated to him that I am on both sides of the road, and that I am in and out of the vehicle and need to be able to see and be seen. he said I would receive a summons if he caught me doing it again....I really need to find the laws and regulations for maine governing vehicle lighting.
One thing you have to be aware of is your NOT a emergency vehicle. so the rules of engagement are different. He is right, your not backing up and your way over powered with those multi lights. and being on the same side of the road with those lights on can confuse drivers. You may have to just run 4 way flashers and park before the hydrant to shovel. I would be careful about running a strobe also. Your not plowing in and out of a drive. Strobes can't be on going down the road if your not a DOT or Tow Truck in use. You may see people doing it but your not suppose to.

I posted some Maine stuff somewhere about that at some point.. MMMMMMM
 

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Hmmmm ! ...sounds like some of the Cops can be a P in the A everywhere ....but have you ever asked them what they would rather see on u'r rig ? ...... put the ball in their court, that way it shows you are willing to correct the issue rather than argue the point .... a little reasoning can go a long ways
Our MOH plowing and sanding trucks use an amber tinted 4"round spots but they point them in towards the sander (kind of like towards the sidewalk)and not back to it as not to confuse the on coming or following traffic ....
Just a thought of what might work .... :rolleyes:
 

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Not sure why you think he's being a problem to you.

4 white lights pointing backwards, shining in oncoming drivers' eyes. He was right, you are creating more of a hazard than you're attempting to prevent.

Personally, what I would do, is stop prior to the hydrant and use your vehicle as a shield while shoveling and you can use your headlights for seeing what you're doing.

Pretty sure you're not going to find a state in the union that allows white rear facing work lights.
 

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Sound like a typical powertripping cop, nothing better to do then bust balls @ midnight...Talk about distracting lights, cop cars are friggin crazy bright & cause accidents...
 

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Sound like a typical powertripping cop, nothing better to do then bust balls @ midnight...Talk about distracting lights, cop cars are friggin crazy bright & cause accidents...
Yeah... those dang cops anyway. Putting their lives on the line to save yours when [email protected]! hits the fan. Bunch of idiots.. :rolleyes:
 

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Yeah... those dang cops anyway. Putting their lives on the line to save yours when [email protected]! hits the fan. Bunch of idiots.. :rolleyes:
That's right risking there lives pulling over them outlaw plow guys trying to earn a buck...In the mean time all these god damn illegal aliens are out there selling drugs and stealing people's sh!t,but were are them cops, pulling over hard working people trying to survive in this country with a dumb ass president & a bunch of bleeding heart ****ing liberal @ss holes spending the tax payers money & don't give me that sh!t that cops don't have quota's
 
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