I see alot of 2500 owners with spreaders in their trucks.I see new car GM dealers selling sno packages with 2500's equiped with plows & spreaders . I bet the average guy dont even know about these warranty quirks or cracks, but shouldnt the GM dealers ?nsmilligan said:Here's the update, after talking with the dealer, and rep:
The dealer forgot my truck is a 3500, when he first talked to the rep, GM rep said NO warranty, it was from over loading the truck, and NOT the front from the plow, but the cracking is caused by overloading on the REAR:huh
The dealer called him back and explained the mistake, after all thats why I bought a 3500, they will cover the REPAIR under warranty.
Anyways the rep will be here next week and wants to look at the truck.
When I talk to the rep I'm going to ask that it be reported to Transport Canada Vehicle safety branch, after all what would happen if the frame broke on the road?
So you guys that have 2500's and carry a spreader, GM wouldn't warranty the repair Funny the frames are identical
Not at all, same place my Dodges broke. Seems to just be a point where there is a lot of stress between the front and back of the truck, almost a fulcrum. You have the plow, engine and then the rest of the truck behind.BRUNSWICK CONCRETE said:Dont all of you guys find it a weird place ,for the cracks to happen in that location ? Is this a problem due to hydroforming the front frame ? Or is it a designed weak or crush zone area in the frame for a frontal crash ?
Mine is an extended cab short box. The gussets are about 2.5" x 3" in size. Maybe we should do some kind of poll and see who has and don't.nsmilligan said:Is this a reg cab or extended cab, long wheel base? it seems to be hit or miss as to which trucks have gussets. If I remember the chassis cabs weren't availible with 137" wheelbase of the reg cab, so maybe it's only reg cabs that are missing the gusset.
Trucks like mine crack in the same place but the older solid axle trucks had issues with the steering box area of the frame. hey make a repair kit for it to solve it, not GM though.Mark Oomkes said:Joey, I think I stated earlier in this thread but maybe not, GM has been having this problem since the late 80's. If they haven't addressed it in almost 20 years, I don't think they're going to. The dealer by us was warrantying them for one frame, 2500 or 3500, after that GM was not paying, didn't matter what age the truck was or how many miles. And this was for a company with a fleet of 20+ trucks.
Designed weak I think when a plow is used. It curves to much in that area and combine that with the way the plow frames only attach to the front of the rails and the front crossmember it creates a lever action on the rail, breaking it. I would say a 1/4 strip of steel 2in wide wellded on top of the rails over the whole wheel well area would solve it. It would need to run back to the cab.BRUNSWICK CONCRETE said:Dont all of you guys find it a weird place ,for the cracks to happen in that location ? Is this a problem due to hydroforming the front frame ? Or is it a designed weak or crush zone area in the frame for a frontal crash ?
Ditto to what J said no kit just make plates and weld her up.. Next let him know a 3500 series wrecker is not a good idea way to light for todays work.No actual repair kit was avail for them. Behind the cab cracks usually were from overloading and the best fix was to drop the tank and break out the welder.