ariens 722 ec or honda 520

Hey boss you are right the old ccr3000 does have a lot more power than the the new 3650. I compared the 2 side by side in the EOD 15" and the 3650 bogged right down. i thought something was wrong with my unit so i used another one of my 3650's same thing. this got me thinking so Get this i call toro and ask for the net HP not Gross HP was on the 3650 and he said it makes [email protected] and 6ft/[email protected] I then asked how much the old 98' ccr3000 has and his exact words were "geeze thats funny" [email protected] but didn't have a torque rating. I was curious at this point and asked about the snow commander and the specs for that were [email protected] and 6.4ft/[email protected] Toro's explanation for this was emissions and i said what emissions they dont even use air filter's. Toro now uses a 141cc r-tek engine that makes 25% less power and is at least 50% louder then then the suzuki 121cc motor. Not to mention when it's cold and snowing flakes get sucked in by the choke lever and freeze up the carb and the recoil starter constantly freezes up. I did get the carb rubber flap fix but will never buy another toro again since I bought 2 hs520 hondas. The Honda is much better in heavy wet snow and equal to in powder. The the toro chute control is better when working along side cars and garage doors because the manual hand turn causes too much overhang of the handle and can clip things when working in tight corners. The Honda 4 stroke is pretty loud also but who cares it lets the customers I have know help is on its way LOL. Honestly the 3650 isn't a bad unit it's just a step back for toro i think they were trying to save a buck or 2 by making there own engines for there snowblowers.

The actual honda auger design in my opinion is a lot better then the toro's. Let me explain why in powdery snow the honda throws a tight stream of snow almost looks like a water hose so it actually goes farther. The toro throws a much broader stream thus you get white washed when working into the wind on the honda you dont. Also the honda's auger has like a chopper bar in the center that actually breaks up that hard compacted snow in that same snow the toro more or less rides up on it. Im telling you i just had my honda and toro out today on my driveway and just compared the 2 side by side i made a 2 foot drift and drove both snow blowers into it at the same time the Honda threw farther by 10' or so into the wind and the toro just about gave me frostbite with all the blowback. Now the paddles are brand new on both of them so all things were equal. The best way to explain the difference in throwing is a hose nozzzle the tight and i mean tight stream of snow being the honda and the fanned out being the toro. I'll measure the actual throwing distance some time when Im bored maybe after thursdays storm. I think fanned snow pattern thrown from the toro is probably due to the slightly wider and more convex chute. if you buy the honda youll say he was right that thing is nuts for a 5hp single stage. The old 6hp 621 is even more powerful just not quite as tight of stream of snow as the 520 but much better then the toro. The 621 can be rammed into 2' drifts and i kid you not as long as its fresh and not sat there for a week you wont even hear the RPM's drop thats torque.