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Curtis plow Id it's old one.

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#1 ·
Can anyone tell me what year ? 2004 ? Looking for PDF files for info on it and owners Manuel . Serial 517 254


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#11 ·
I think they might at least know how to get you the right information,
I have a Mach 1 it's a triple edge mount that goes on truck pump lights etc. But it just has a regular 7.5 feet push blade. It's a heavy one 790 lbs a 2002 suburban only rated for like 560 lbs on the front . And a 1999 Tahoe rating is 758 lbs so it might end up on the 1999 Tahoe.

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I have a Mach 1 it's a triple edge mount that goes on truck pump lights etc. But it just has a regular 7.5 feet push blade. It's a heavy one 790 lbs a 2002 suburban only rated for like 560 lbs on the front . And a 1999 Tahoe rating is 758 lbs so it might end up on the 1999 Tahoe.

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It will probably sag a significantly on the way Tahoe in the front. I would think about upgrading the shocks and springs on the truck to one’s that support more weight. You will also want ballast on the Tahoe to balance out the weight distribution of the plow and keep the front axle loading kinda in spec. There is no getting around the fact you are overloaded no matter what. It will create wear issues on the front end of the truck.

But I would use the Tahoe too.
 
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The Tahoe is IFS up front. right? When you upgrade the springs you should change the shocks to properly dampen the vibrations. That was my comment on the shocks. Do they make different torsion bars for the Tahoe? I thought he would be stuck with the factory ones. But if he can by all means get heavier duty ones.

Timbrens aren’t going to fix the underlying overloading issue... they will just make it look level.
 
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965 lb mounted that's nuts .. real world and salesman world seems to be different places ..



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Ballast is a big help in making sure the weight is distributed correctly over length of the truck. It won’t stop excessive sagging but, it usually keeps the truck’s CG correctly positioned thus reducing issues with excessive front end sagging. Also they do make leveling kits and they help out as well.

I think 965lbs is okay if you have front end that is strong enough to support the weight. You put a leveling kit on it and the sagging is cured add ballast to maintain the CG and traction.
 
#36 ·
counter weight when applied to a plowtruck
is just like a balance beam scale.
weight on one end is used to counter act a weight on the other end until it balances out. A counterbalance is a weight or force that balances or offsets another as when two objects of equal weight, power, or influence are acting in opposition to each other. The objects are then said to be in counterbalance.


ballast is used on ships for the reasons i have already posted.
sail boats have a mast, cargo ships do not .

as for ballast used in racing, notice its not called a counterweight......
ballast may only be located in certain positions on the car. ...
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can you point out the ballast in this diagram?
 

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#37 ·
race car.Ballast weight is also added to a race car to alter its performance. In most racing series, cars have a minimum allowable weight. Often, the actual weight of the car is lower, so ballast is used to bring it up to the minimum.

notice they dont use a counter weight.


ballast

(nautical) Heavy material that is placed in the hold of a ship (or in the gondola of a balloon), to provide stability.
(figuratively) Anything that steadies emotion or the mind.
Coarse gravel or similar material laid to form a bed for roads or railroads, or in making concrete.
(construction) A material, such as aggregate or precast concrete pavers, which employs its mass and the force of gravity to hold single-ply roof membranes in place.
(countable, electricity, electronics) device used for stabilizing current in an electric circuit (e.g. in a tube lamp supply circuit)
(figuratively) That which gives, or helps to maintain, uprightness, steadiness, and security

again
A counterbalance is a weight or force that balances or offsets another
 
#38 ·
Ballast is used in ships to provide moment to resist the lateral forces on the hull. Insufficiently ballasted boats tend to tip or heel excessively in high winds. Too much heel may result in the boat/ship capsizing. If a sailing vessel should need to voyage without cargo then ballast of little or no value would be loaded to keep the vessel upright. Some or all of this ballast would then be discarded when cargo was loaded.

not to be confused with a counterweight.
 

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#39 ·
You’re probably a picture kind of kid ,so I’m gonna post a couple pictures that explain counterweight how the fulcrum works When applied to a vehicle and would you please point out ballast in any of them
 

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#41 ·
Seeing as I’m tossing such big lures out into the pond today ,..I might as will toss another one out there,


I’m standing here looking at my plow truck and I’m not seeing a 25 foot mast sticking up in the air so I’m confused , does your truck have one ?
what I would need ballast for ?
Also, I don’t want to sit lower , into the ground for more stability .

I like to keep my trucks out of the pond..
And on top of the dirt
 
#47 ·
Maybe this is where you’re stumbling
A boat doesn’t have a fulcrum as It’s surrounded by water
A boat uses ballast to lower it in the water to stabilize it /To limit rocking

Your truck on the other hand has a Fixed fulcrum an arm ( the frame) just like in the pictures and diagrams above.
And like what is represented you would use a counterweight.
Capeesh
 
#49 ·
naval architect I suppose you are one ....
you seem to lack the ability to answer any of my questions leads me to believe you don't know.
Show me fulcrum.

A boat can rotate around 3 axis's at once , please show me the fulcrum.

Rotational motions

The vertical/Z axis, or yaw axis, is an imaginary line running vertically through the ship and through its center of gravity. A yaw motion is a side-to side movement of the bow and stern of the ship.

The transverse/Y axis, lateral axis, or pitch axis is an imaginary line running horizontally across the ship and through the center of gravity. A pitch motion is an up-or-down movement of the bow and stern of the ship.

The longitudinal/X axis, or roll axis, is an imaginary line running horizontally through the length of the ship, through its center of gravity, and parallel to the waterline. A roll motion is a side-to-side or port-starboard tilting motion of the superstructure around this axis.

Then....
Transnational motion
Heave
The linear vertical (up/down) motion; excessive downward heave can swamp a ship.
Sway
The linear transverse (side-to-side or port-starboard) motion. This motion is generated directly either by the water and wind currents exerting forces against the hull or by the ship's own propulsion; or indirectly by the inertia of the ship while turning. This movement can be compared to the vessel's drift from its course.
Surge
The linear longitudinal (front/back or bow/stern) motion imparted by maritime conditions.

Educate me show me the fulcrum.
Im also curious as to how the ship would sit on one and still float?
 

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#55 ·
You can say anything you want, it doesn’t make you right.
There isn’t a fulcrum on a boat
I have proven this.

You need to show proof otherwise.
Saying I’m wrong ,proves that you don’t know


I can show you where they use
Counterweight then in the next sentence that call it ballast, manuals written for people with a4th
Grade education.
Manuals are known to be wrong.
Counter weight counters the weight of the plow and goes behind the rear axle. The rear axle acts like a fulcrum.

Ballast goes in front of the rear wheals and adds weight to both front and rear.

We know manuals are wrong .
Here is boss’s
“Ballast is primarily added whenever you desire to take weight off of the front of your truck. Ballast is also used to add traction and may be required to be used with certain plows due to their weight.”
“Where To Use Ballast
It is important that the ballast weight be placed behind the rear axle, as far to the rear of the truck bed as possible. In this location, the rear axle acts as the fulcrum taking weight off of the front axle. Any additional weight placed in front of the rear axle actually adds weight to the front axle and may exceed the FGAWR of the vehicle.”

We know they used the word ballasts wrong
As this is the definition of a counterweight
As per Webster and everyone else.

But we know this is the wrong use of ballast.
because
We have looked up the definitions.
(Poster earlier )


https://simpletractors.com/forums/topic/20337-rear-counterweight-for-snow-plow/

https://www.globalindustrial.com/p/...ounterweight-balance-for-fork-truck-snow-plow
 
#57 ·
hmmm so there isn't a fulcrum...

A yacht at an angle of heel

Let's consider a boat at rest, sitting level in calm water. The boat's mass is centred on a point G, the centre of gravity, and we can think of the force of gravity as acting straight down through this point. The centroid of the boat's underwater volume is called B, the centre of buoyancy. The force of buoyancy is directed straight up through this point.

We now heel the boat over by an angle "phi". Point G doesn't move, but point B does: by heeling the boat, we've lifted her windward side out of the water and immersed her leeward side. The centre of buoyancy, B, therefore shifts to leeward.

The force of buoyancy, acting upward through B, is now offset from the force of gravity, acting downward through G. The perpendicular distance between these two forces, which by convention we call GZ, can be thought of as the length of the lever that the buoyancy force is using to try to bring the boat upright. GZ is the "righting arm".

If we draw a line straight upward from B, it will intersect the ship's centreline at a point called M, known as the "metacentre". (Strictly speaking, the term "metacentre" applies only when phi is very tiny, but a pseudo-metacentre exists at any given angle of heel.) The metacentric height is a useful quantity to know when calculating changes in trim and heel
 

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#64 ·
If you load the ring with greatest mass in the center you will have a CG in the center of the ring . It will be stable. Create a high center structure and CG will move up and the structure will be the lever and the CB will below it creating the fulcrum point and the force needed to tip it occur.

Since you choose a round object you do this same thing with ring either in the vertical or horizontal plane...

Thanks for playing
 
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