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post #26 of 69 Old 10-22-2019, 06:50 PM
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The age is only a factor in the condition of the filter.
False.
Age doesn’t play a roll , condition would.

How would you determine the screans age?
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False.
Age doesn’t play a role , condition would.

How would you determine the screens age?
Bingo given the age of the plow he doesn’t know what to expect for the filter? It could also be damaged. If I were the guy I would clean the original one at least but I say replace it.

In fact for $75.00 usd I would buy the Storks rebuild kit and rebuild the all the gaskets and o rings. Let’s face it the unit is pushing 25 years. That is a long time for any gasket or o-ring.

It’s also just a suggestion not an invitation to an argument.
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Bingo given the age of the plow he doesn’t know what to expect for the filter? It could also be damaged. If I were the guy I would clean the original one at least but I say replace it.

In fact for $75.00 usd I would buy the Storks rebuild kit and rebuild the all the gaskets and o rings. Let’s face it the unit is pushing 25 years. That is a long time for any gasket or o-ring.


It’s also just a suggestion not an invitation to an argument.
Again age of the filter is moot.

After he cleans it he can inspect it for any damage
Then replace it.

Why replace good parts with good parts?

I have a lot of hydraulic stuff that is well over 25 years old and I don’t go digging threw them to just replace o-rings, do you?

with all of your equipment or engines that are over 25 years old dew you Tare them apart and replace the gaskets and O-rings?
I’m just asking for a friend.

I’m not arguing with you I’m just pointing things out to the other guy where you may not be as correct as you think you are
Or That your suggestions are make work at best.
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Again age of the filter is moot.

After he cleans it he can inspect it for any damage
Then replace it.

Why replace good parts with good parts?

I have a lot of hydraulic stuff that is well over 25 years old and I donít go digging threw them to just replace o-rings do you?
It depends on certain factors usage is critical. I have a feeling this pump sits 5-6 months out of the year...
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It depends on certain factors usage is critical. I have a feeling this pump sits 5-6 months out of the year...
No itís not.
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No itís not.
Nitrile Buna has a 15 year shelf life... this is probably the most common o-ring material. And oils and heat eat them up like crazy...
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Nice to see you’re still trying
the hydraulic fluid would keep the O-Zone, uv, and the other elements away from it, thus preserving the O-ring.

As opposed to sitting on a shelf.

Hydraulic fluids aor like a preservative for
o-rangs.
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Actually o-rings are designed to last the lifetime of the pump or the motor theyíre installed in.
At minimum O-Rings have a life span of at least 50 years +.
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I have another problem with my old cable plow now. I took the motor of changed the oil and cleaned the filter it was dirty. But now the blade will not stay up and sometimes when I angle it it goes up as well as angle I think I have enough oil in it it came out the overflow. The only connection I took of was the negative and I cleaned it before reinstalling it. After the first try I rechecked the oil level but when I took the overflow plug out the pressure blew the spring out.is there anything else in there that could have blown out.i was thinking I have air in it and if I do what is the best way to get it out? Thanks Tux
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I have another problem with my old cable plow now. I took the motor of changed the oil and cleaned the filter it was dirty. But now the blade will not stay up and sometimes when I angle it it goes up as well as angle I think I have enough oil in it it came out the overflow. The only connection I took of was the negative and I cleaned it before reinstalling it. After the first try I rechecked the oil level but when I took the overflow plug out the pressure blew the spring out.is there anything else in there that could have blown out.i was thinking I have air in it and if I do what is the best way to get it out? Thanks Tux
Page 25 has the troubleshooting guide and your problem
http://library.westernplows.com/west...280_080193.pdf
That is the best I can do.
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Thanks again Walter I'm going there now
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when I took the overflow plug out the pressure blew the spring out.

Can you show where you took the the plug out at?
Should not be any springs in that area.
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If you are looking at the truck from the front the overflow is at the top right hand side of the pump under the motor
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Did mabey you take out a plug looking thing from the rear, which is a check valve.
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If you are looking at the truck from the front the overflow is at the top right hand side of the pump under the motor
A cable operated western pump does not have a "level" plug.
There is a fill plug, on the passenger side that uses a 7/16 open end wrench, if it's still factory.
The manual stated fill with fluid to the bottom of the fill hole. Approx 2 1/2 quarts.
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That may make sense and may be my problem. But I have had it out before with no problem.i will look tomorrow afternoon when I get back.and would this valve cause my problem and how do I fix it thanks tux
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Does not show a level plug
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I will take a pic tomorrow and post it
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I will take a pic tomorrow and post it
Ok that will help
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Here is a pic of the plug I took out if it is a check valve I tried backing it of by 1 1/4 turns but it did nothing. I have a blue handle Allen key with a bandaid around it.the second picks all I can find on the motor with any numbers on it
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That is not a level plug. It's a check valve as pictured in the schematic above
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OK so I am thinking there should be a ball bearing at the bottom of the spring this must have flew out with the spring find the ball bearing and I am good to go am I correct?
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Here is a pic of the plug I took out if it is a check valve I tried backing it of by 1 1/4 turns but it did nothing. I have a blue handle Allen key with a bandaid around it.the second picks all I can find on the motor with any numbers on it
http://library.westernplows.com/west...520_091793.pdf
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Trying to load a file. Well I got part of an exploded view for you. I will look in the morning, I think I have an old unit in the shed, if it is there I will pull that part out and take a few pics of it and post them.
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