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So, the op is now on to a 7.5 ft western or fisher?
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I don't recall that...
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So, scroll back and read...
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So, I was reading a post on the site not to be mentioned here , that puzzled me. A poster states he is a manager of small city in the NJ county of Hunterdon with plenty of experience with purchasing plows and trucks... but, oddly wants talk to professionals on the internet? Shouldnít he just talk to his highway superintendent? The odds are that the city has a few smaller trucks in the 3/4 to 1 ton range with 8.6 to 10 ft plow for doing municipal building parking lots or even public parking lots. Needless to say this poster could just ask this individual for a recommendation on plows?

Seems a bit odd to me. Not to mention why does he want a home owners plow for a full sized pickup? Thatís like putting a pick up rated plow on my Walter trucks. Just doesnít make sense to me. But, I want to see how this plays out.
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I was a city worker here and know it takes awhile. . . for governments to make a decision. . .

a suggestion from a retired city operator.
we got a fair amount of snow in our town and had big plows 10' to 11' for the
roads - a grader with extra options for plowing - the back hoes were also used.
for lots and fields we use the 950 CAT front end loader. it also had an optional Bailderson power blade that had to be used carefully as it would peel up a curb or remove anything in its path [some other guy learned that]
I loved running that more than the other plow options.
yeah we had heavy equipment for summer use and in the winter we used what we had.

yes we had a few pick ups a tractor too. but those had different uses than plowing.
yup they had a budget for plowing and sometimes we went over when there was a big storm.
we had the equipment for the highways and by ways. then used the front end loader and back hoes for parking lots and clean up after the storms.

maybe our city foreman knew what he was doing.
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I was a city worker here and know it takes awhile. . . for governments to make a decision. . .

a suggestion from a retired city operator.
we got a fair amount of snow in our town and had big plows 10' to 11' for the
roads - a grader with extra options for plowing - the back hoes were also used.
for lots and fields we use the 950 CAT front end loader. it also had an optional Bailderson power blade that had to be used carefully as it would peel up a curb or remove anything in its path [some other guy learned that]
I loved running that more than the other plow options.
yeah we had heavy equipment for summer use and in the winter we used what we had.

yes we had a few pick ups a tractor too. but those had different uses than plowing.
yup they had a budget for plowing and sometimes we went over when there was a big storm.
we had the equipment for the highways and by ways. then used the front end loader and back hoes for parking lots and clean up after the storms.

maybe our city foreman knew what he was doing.
My questions were why does a guy that knows about snow plowing go to the internet instead of dealers first?
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My questions were why does a guy that knows about snow plowing go to the internet instead of dealers first?
I find it ironic youíd ask that; your posts, ideas, and ways of doing things consistently get rejected, yet you continue to try and sway us to concur, almost as if youíre going to have us buy into your ideas that a company bought out by K mart engines is the best there ever was, is and ever will be.
So why not go post on a Walter forum?
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I find it ironic youíd ask that; your posts, ideas, and ways of doing things consistently get rejected, yet you continue to try and sway us to concur, almost as if youíre going to have us buy into your ideas that a company bought out by K mart engines is the best there ever was, is and ever will be.
So why not go post on a Walter forum?
What the hell are you talking about ? Cummins, Detroit, Deutz, MAN , Wartsila-Sulzer, Mercedes-Benz , MTU, Cat , Fairbanks Morse, or Tatra are my preferred diesel power options.... I have a question which one of these engines is made by Kmart ?

Speaking of Walters cannot wait to get my NCBS... it has a NTC300 in it.

Most of the time I just like to screw with people but now that I have 7 Walters... The world is my oyster...
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What the hell are you talking about ? Cummins, Detroit, Deutz, MAN , Wartsila-Sulzer, Mercedes-Benz , MTU, Cat , Fairbanks Morse, or Tatra are my preferred diesel power options.... I have a question which one of these engines is made by Kmart ?

Speaking of Walters cannot wait to get my NCBS... it has a NTC300 in it.

Most of the time I just like to screw with people but now that I have 7 Walters... The world is my oyster...
"Walter trucks purchased by Kme in 1997"
KME stands for keep Mechanics Employed or K Mart Engines
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"Walter trucks purchased by Kme in 1997"
KME stands for keep Mechanics Employed or K Mart Engines
KME... Now, I get it. I actually have never heard either of those nicknames for KME. it also is a fact I donít actually follow the fire apparatus manufacturers that much. Walter was dead in 1995 two years before KME purchased the carcass of the once great Walter Motor Truck Corporation. The only division of the Walter truck company I like was the Snow-fighter division. And they have their own fun issues...
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KME stands for keep Mechanics Employed or K Mart Engines
Just face it Aj... your not worthy to own a Walter...
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Out of curiosity did you actually attend the University of Norte Dame?
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Out of curiosity did you actually attend the University of Norte Dame?
Wrong AJ whizz kid.... instead of wasting time thinking aboot stupid sit you should pay attention.....this AJ isn’t from Bendover Id.
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Wrong AJ whizz kid.... instead of wasting time thinking aboot stupid sit you should pay attention.....this AJ isnít from Bendover Id.
Pay attention to what exactly?
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Not what, who.
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I meant to what statements should I have paid attention too.
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My questions were why does a guy that knows about snow plowing go to the internet instead of dealers first?
perhaps he just likes to see what opinions and what options might be available?
Or a guy that knows everything, but still does the research to be sure he is right?

perhaps dealers near him only want to sell products that they know nothing about?

So it is a good thing to see the options and weigh/consider them.

I used to think the meyer was the best pick up plow - as it was the 1st and only one I had run.
later I operated a Western and worked on them both -
I preferred the western plow as [IMO] it was better than the meyer I have.
that is my opinion and others have theirs.
in online forums we can read diverse opinions of others.

as for dealers?
I can only share my opinion: they are too often just a salesman trying to move the stock on the floor.
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perhaps he just likes to see what opinions and what options might be available?
Or a guy that knows everything, but still does the research to be sure he is right?

perhaps dealers near him only want to sell products that they know nothing about?

So it is a good thing to see the options and weigh/consider them.

I used to think the meyer was the best pick up plow - as it was the 1st and only one I had run.
later I operated a Western and worked on them both -
I preferred the western plow as [IMO] it was better than the meyer I have.
that is my opinion and others have theirs.
in online forums we can read diverse opinions of others.

as for dealers?
I can only share my opinion: they are too often just a salesman trying to move the stock on the floor.
I agree dealers will try to sell you something and portray their product as the best. But, if you have a F250 they certainly can tell you that products A ->Z fit your truck and work best. Then since this person who originally posted manages a city I would just ask the superintendent of the highways what models he likes for 3/4 ton plows. Now, in my town and all the small cities around me in the northeast I.e. city of Hudson, city of Kingston and so on you will see 3/4-1 ton municipal trucks clearing tight alley ways, local government parking lots and the other town or city buildings. So, I figure this guys city in NJ is similar and this superintendent of highways probably has 1-2 small trucks for these duties. So, this superintendent should be a great resource.

The problem with internet is that most of the information is anecdotal in nature and often from sources with experience of one or two products so the sampling size is too small to make any judgement on the product. Now of course you do get people with years of experience like heavy equipment operators or mechanics and even their evidence is anecdotal in the sense of collection their experience with multiple units makes it much more compelling. This is also in conjunction with their knowledge of the design and function of equipment gives them much more authority then just the average plow jockey....

So, really what I was getting was at with my post. If I were this city manager I would first pick the brains of the guys I know in the highway department. I ask the mechanics and so on. Then the operators. Then I would go to the internet last only because the information is so much harder to verify.
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