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post #1 of 56 Old 07-25-2019, 06:13 PM Thread Starter
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Will, totally electric snow plow trucks be in our future ?
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In the future there isnít any snow.
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Your poll is flawed and narrow in scope .
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Snofarmer is right. The construct of your poll seems to imply that you feel it won't happen - even though it is 100% guaranteed and, I would wager even money, will account for all plow trucks at some point within our lifetimes.



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In the future there isnít any snow.
Not, exactly true since I was thinking in the next 20-30years. Not 100-200 years in the future.
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Snofarmer is right. The construct of your poll seems to imply that you feel it won't happen - even though it is 100% guaranteed and, I would wager even money, will account for all plow trucks at some point within our lifetimes.



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Yes, it isnít supposed to be a serious poll. It is a joke.
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In the future there isn’t any snow.
Not, exactly true since I was thinking in the next 20-30years. Not 100-200 years in the future.
Oh, so you are adding these caveats after the fact, eh? Huh. I see how it is.
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Oh, so you are adding these caveats after the fact, eh? Huh. I see how it is.
Sure... I guess you could claim this is a problem. It is a joke.
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Sure... I guess you claim this is a problem. It is a joke.

No, not claiming it's a problem. Just making a note.

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In the future there isn’t any snow.
Oh, you must be one of those "climate change" people.

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No, not claiming it's a problem. Just making a note.

The battery issues will need to be solved before you can create a viable electric powered snow plow truck.
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The battery issues will need to be solved before you can create a viable electric powered snow plow truck.




The available square footage of the pickup bed obviously gives significantly more surface area for solar panel coverage. Long bed and quad cab will be the preferred model in the future for maximum power
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The available square footage of the pickup bed obviously gives significantly more surface area for solar panel coverage. Long bed and quad cab will be the preferred model in the future for maximum power
Solar panels arenít going to solve these problems. You need high energy density low weight and fast recharging. Super capacitors are a good option but still too large and bulky.
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Solar panels arenít going to solve these problems. You need high energy density low weight and fast recharging. Super capacitors are a good option but still too large and bulky.
Power will be supplemented with
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Power will be supplemented with
Yeah donít think you should wait for mister fusion...
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Yeah don’t think you should wait for mister fusion...
It's "MR." not "mister." You wouldn't say "mister coffee", would you?

Except for the Mexican units which are "SE—OR FUSION"
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It's "MR." not "mister." You wouldn't say "mister coffee", would you?

Except for the Mexican units which are "SE—OR FUSION"
I in fact do say Mister Coffee since MR. is pronounced Mister... I am just crazy like that.
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wireless power transmission by Nikola Tesla .

...
snow is a leftover condition of the ice age.
It didn’t snow in the Jurassic age.
The climate is in constant flux.



The bigger issue will be when the moon drifts
Far enough away to break its orbit with the earth
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I in fact do say Mister Coffee since MR. is pronounced Mister... I am just crazy like that.
So much anger.

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A variant form of Mr., often used humorously or with offensive emphasis
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wireless power transmission by Nikola Tesla .

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snow is a leftover condition of the ice age.
It didnít snow in the Jurassic age.
The climate is in constant flux.



The bigger issue will be when the moon drifts
Far enough away to break its orbit with the earth
Wireless power transmission would probably not be the best solution given the amount power you would need to power a cityó would possibly electrocute people if they complete the circuit , possibly cause issues with medical devices and electronics. The amount power needed to power a city wirelessly would probably not be safe for humans.
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All capacitors have voltage limits. While the electrostatic capacitor can be made to withstand high volts, the supercapacitor is confined to 2.5–2.7V. Voltages of 2.8V and higher are possible, but at a reduce service life.

I think but who knows but to to the work of
Moving vehicles ya might need a fer more volts.

What’s the amperage of said Capacitor?


Other issues


Take a 6V power source that is allowed to discharge to 4.5V before the equipment cuts off. By the time the supercapacitor reaches this voltage threshold, a linear discharge only delivers 44% of the energy; the remaining 56% is reserved.

To put this to bed.

Da super-capacitor is often misunderstood; it is not a battery replacement to store long-term energy. If, for example, the charge and discharge times are more than 60 seconds, use a battery; if shorter, then the supercapacitor becomes economical.

Supercapacitors are ideal when a quick charge is needed to fill a short-term power need; whereas batteries are chosen to provide long-term energy.
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Wireless power transmission would probably not be the best solution given the amount power you would need to power a city— would possibly electrocute people if they complete the circuit , possibly cause issues with medical devices and electronics. The amount power needed to power a city wirelessly would probably not be safe for humans.

You need to do a bit more reading on the subject

We would have gone in this direction if the power use/ consumption Could be metered so they could charge you $
Based on your consumption .

This method could be used just for
Vehicles .
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Tesla stood at Pike’s Peak and cackled diabolically as the night sky over Colorado was cracked by the man-made lightning machine. Colossal bolts of electricity arced hundreds of feet from the tower’s top to lick the landscape. A curious blue corona soon enveloped the crackling equipment. Millions of volts charged the atmosphere.

Tesla confirmed that the Earth itself could be used as an electrical conductor, and verified some of his suspicions regarding the conductivity of the ionosphere. In later tests, he recorded success in an attempt to illuminate light bulbs from afar.


And no one was harmed.


modern investigations and calculations, however, do support Tesla’s contention that wireless electricity is not only feasible, but it may have even been a superior alternative to the extensive and costly grid of power lines which crisscross our globe today.
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On a more serious note, if Tesla can make an all electric tractor trailer, then energy storage concerns are not insurmountable. Yes, I understand that a tractor trailer is slightly larger than your average pickup, but in the remaining years between now and when fossils fuels are depleted (or depleted to the point that they are so expensive as to be impractical for the average person any more) there should be plenty of time to devise high storage batteries. Look at the improvements that batteries have seen in the past 20 years already from the days of NiCad batteries to today's LiON.

If it means that plow truck drivers will need to carry a reserve battery pack in the bed, or permanently sacrifice part of the bed for it, so be it. Such will be life and people will learn to live with it.
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On a more serious note, if Tesla can make an all electric tractor trailer, then energy storage concerns are not insurmountable. Yes, I understand that a tractor trailer is slightly larger than your average pickup, but in the remaining years between now and when fossils fuels are depleted (or depleted to the point that they are so expensive as to be impractical for the average person any more) there should be plenty of time to devise high storage batteries. Look at the improvements that batteries have seen in the past 20 years already from the days of NiCad batteries to today's LiON.

If it means that plow truck drivers will need to carry a reserve battery pack in the bed, or permanently sacrifice part of the bed for it, so be it. Such will be life and people will learn to live with it.

While I agree with most of this...

I think the earth will be gone before we run out of
So called “ fossil fuel”
As mt alone has more coal than the rest of the world has oil.

And then will continue to make fuel out of food

When I say fossil fuel I mean fossilized algae beds .

Dinosaurs didn’t die in huge piles that would be needed to prouduce fossil fuel .

But you knew dat.
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