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post #51 of 159 Old 07-10-2019, 06:44 AM
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Antiquated? I guess you better tell that to Torsen...
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Id tell it to MR.Vernon Gleasman the inverter.
All Torsen differentials have their origin in the Dual-Drive Differential that was invented and patented by Gleasman in 1958.

Torsen is a portmanteau of Torque-Sensing so I see no need to tell it to a portmanteau nor could you.
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yes.......

F = μt W

= μt m ag (1)



F = traction effort or force acting on the wheel from the surface (N, lbf)

μt = traction - or friction - coefficient between the wheel and the surface

W = weight or vertical force between wheel and surface (N, lbf))

m = mass on the wheel (kg, slugs)

ag = acceleration of gravity (9.81 m/s2, 32.17405 ft/s2)

Hold on, hold on. I'm still calculating from last time

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Id tell it to MR.Vernon Gleasman the inverter.
All Torsen differentials have their origin in the Dual-Drive Differential that was invented and patented by Gleasman in 1958.

Torsen is a portmanteau of Torque-Sensing so I see no need to tell it to a portmanteau nor could you.
https://torsen.com/how-it-works/

Or Torsen traction the company selling them today.
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https://torsen.com/how-it-works/

Or Torsen traction the company selling them today.
nope,
a company is not a person, you can't ask it anything. it is a inanimate object.
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what about Torvec?

Actually you would have to tell it to someone at JTEKT Torsen, a Subsidiary of JTEKT North America Inc.
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nope,
a company is not a person, you can't ask it anything. it is a inanimate object.
Actually, companies according to the legal rulings like Burrell v. Hobby lobby , Dartmouth v. Woodard and Citizens Untied v. FEC have given specific rights associated with persons to companies.
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Actually, companies according to the legal rulings like Burrell v. Hobby lobby , Dartmouth v. Woodard and Citizens Untied v. FEC have given specific rights associated with persons to companies.
so what, well, I guess you can communicate with immanent objects.

my statement holds, you cant talk to thorsen a trademarked word.
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so what, well, I guess you can communicate with immanent objects.

my statement holds, you cant talk to thorsen a trademarked word.
Yes, you are right I cannot talk to Torsen the word but I can call up the company...
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Yes, you are right I cannot talk to Torsen the word but I can call up the company...
Torsen no longer exesists. it has been bought cant you comprehend what has been posted.

torsen is just a trademarked word. to day torsen is "JTEKT Torsen", a Subsidiary of JTEKT North America Inc.
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Torsen no longer exesists. it has been bought cant you comprehend what has been posted.

torsen is just a trademarked word. to day torsen is "JTEKT Torsen", a Subsidiary of JTEKT North America Inc.
Again, this is a red herring... I can still call up the manufacturer no matter what their present name is to talk to them.
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Again, this is a red herring... I can still call up the manufacturer no matter what their present name is to talk to them.
go right a head give them a call, whats stopping you?
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go right a head give them a call, whats stopping you?
You are the one that believes that Walters worm gear and worm wheel differential is outdated. The Torsen is the modern equivalent. My statement was simply if you think they are outdated why not call these guys and ask them if their system is popular with modern OEM of Cars and Trucks... since I know the answer I have no need to call. Again you bat down a straw man ...
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Not a strawman argument that all I have no need to call anybody
I know that Walters drive train system is antiquated too many open to the environment moving parts that need to be greased
it has limited speed it is a very limited system.

There is a reason why you can buy a 1985 walter with a plow ,belly scraper, dump box that is in very good condition for nine grand or less.

Whatever you need to sleep at night but the rest of us know we can buy a vehicle that has a better drive train and is more reliable and requires less maintenance.
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Not a strawman argument that all I have no need to call anybody
I know that Walters drive train system is antiquated too many open to the environment moving parts that need to be greased
it has limited speed it is a very limited system.

There is a reason why you can buy a 1985 walter with a plow ,belly scraper, dump box that is in very good condition for nine grand or less.

Whatever you need to sleep at night but the rest of us know we can buy a vehicle that has a better drive train and is more reliable and requires less maintenance.
Again Strawman the heart of the system where torque proportioning automatic locking differentials. And that concept is still viable in a system that is basically similar to the Walterís differentials called the torsen from 1958 on...

The Walters do not require more maintenance than other trucks of their era in their roles. The difference is Walter never adapted to changing trends in the industry and focused to heavily on two markets after awhile: snow removal and airport fire trucks. They branched out half heartedly into cement mixer platforms and refuse trucks. But they never really accepted the fact they needed to make bigger trucks with more axle configurations to get into different markets or trucks with more conventional styling for over the road work.
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Nope not

You’re saying,even today’s vehicle is basically the same as the first car ever invented

While torque sensing differentials are used today modern trucks that have a speed over 45 miles an hour most don’t use a worm gear out at the wheels.
That only had a dust cover over it that was open and it needed to be greased on a regular basis.

While modern torque sensing drivetrains achieve this in a much different way .
Manny apply this power to the ground in a much different way and in a vehicle that has the same capabilities yet it can go over 45 miles an hour .

Walters Antiquated worm gear /wheel drive has a limited speed this has made it a relic.
There’s also the reason why Walters doesn’t use that same drivetrain and firetrucks and other vehicles it makes


Bottom line ,by all of your admissions model vehicles can also have 100% tractotive force.

We understand you have a unnatural bond with Walter.
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We understand you have a unnatural bond with Walter.
I guess that's the polite way to put it...
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Nope not

Youíre saying,even todayís vehicle is basically the same as the first car ever invented

While torque sensing differentials are used today modern trucks that have a speed over 45 miles an hour most donít use a worm gear out at the wheels.
That only had a dust cover over it that was open and it needed to be greased on a regular basis.

While modern torque sensing drivetrains achieve this in a much different way .
Manny apply this power to the ground in a much different way and in a vehicle that has the same capabilities yet it can go over 45 miles an hour .

Walters Antiquated worm gear /wheel drive has a limited speed this has made it a relic.
Thereís also the reason why Walters doesnít use that same drivetrain and firetrucks and other vehicles it makes


Bottom line ,by all of your admissions model vehicles can also have 100% tractotive force.

We understand you have a unnatural bond with Walter.
Do you just make this crap up? Nothing you said is even remotely true about the Walter drive train. This post actually made laugh out loud.
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This post actually made laugh out loud.
Are we talking guffaw, chuckle, or a full on, honest to God LOLing?
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Are we talking guffaw, chuckle, or a full on, honest to God LOLing?
It was deep resonating laugh from my chest...
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It was deep resonating laugh from my chest...
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Do you just make this crap up? Nothing you said is even remotely true about the Walter drive train. This post actually made laugh out loud.
Its all true, just like your posts and just like you, I don't have to post anything else to support my post.
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It was deep resonating laugh from my chest...
really, you must suffer from Pseudobulbar affect (PBA)
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really, you must suffer from Pseudobulbar affect (PBA)
Really? I thought it was PSJ: (P)low (S)ite (J)ealousy

Characterized by an unfulfilled, deep longing. Symptoms include talking to ones self, irritability, and preoccupation with obsolete snow equipment.

*Please note: I am not a qualified physician and the above should not be taken as medical advice. If you feel you are suffering from a medical condition, please contact your primary care doctor.
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Its all true, just like your posts and just like you, I don't have to post anything else to support my post.
Nearly, everything you said is false about the Walter and the Torsen differentials... not to mention gross inaccurate claims about the Walter drive train as well...
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Really? I thought it was PSJ: (P)low (S)ite (J)ealousy

Characterized by an unfulfilled, deep longing. Symptoms include talking to ones self, irritability, and preoccupation with obsolete snow equipment.

*Please note: I am not a qualified physician and the above should not be taken as medical advice. If you feel you are suffering from a medical condition, please contact your primary care doctor.

Iím just your average kinda guy... lazing in the Louvre...
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