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Old 12-05-2009, 03:26 PM
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Snowman back blade wiring diagram

Does anyone have the wiring diagram for a 2003 80SC Snowman snow plow? The directions are vague. When we purchased the plow it didn't have a solinoid so we bought one. The other issue is when we where running the harness threw the firewall the plug came appart and we don't know the correct positions of the wires in the plug.

In the pic the plug is the harness side. We don't know the switch side. I have the wires out of the plug for now trying to figure out the propper pattern.

There are only 3 wires but I dont' know which of the 9 holes they go in. The picture is a little blurry but there are points on the top of the plug and the wires are green, yellow and brown.

Any help would be greatly appreicated.

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Old 12-06-2009, 04:06 AM
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It has to be the same as mine .
I will look !
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Old 12-06-2009, 05:31 AM
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Jerre called me last night! Thanks Bud!!!! UDAMAN I am going to try and fix it tomorrow. Seems like a combo of things. I had the soliniod wrong too I am not very good with electrical stuff
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Matt ,
My SC has 6 wires to the back of the connector . White, black , blue , orange,green, red . On the controller side of the connector only three wires .
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if you have both sides of the connector can't you just rewire it in any of the pins and keep it the same on both sides?

I think the extra wires you have are for the models that have angle? I gotta get my snowman back together too, its all sorts of broken right now too
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Matt ,
My SC has 6 wires to the back of the connector . White, black , blue , orange,green, red . On the controller side of the connector only three wires .
The plug you see in the pic is the harness side.

I needed to know where the 3 wires on the controler side went. Jerre clearified it for me. If it doesnt' work I will let you know.

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if you have both sides of the connector can't you just rewire it in any of the pins and keep it the same on both sides?

I think the extra wires you have are for the models that have angle? I gotta get my snowman back together too, its all sorts of broken right now too
I still have the plug the wires came out of it. They will go back in once I have the pattern. The extra wires are for the spreader option I believe.

Thanks for you help guys.

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as I calculate, there are only 729 possible combinations of where the 3 wires would go. Id say if you start trying each one now, you might get it done before winters over. haha - jk - good luck!
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I just wanted to put a HUGE shout out to Jerre, Got it all the wiring figured out!! Thanks a ton buddy!

Now I have a hopping issue only going down. Any help would be appreciated!!!! Bill never told us how he fixed his in "Hydraulics 101".
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Glad you got the wiring sorted out . Well,with my problem I decided to go through the plow . I checked all the electrical connections , they were clean and greased . I also used a small flat screwdriver to slightly separate the split prongs .
Then I drained and removed the tank . Found the problem . Even though I drained and changed the fluid last spring I didnt remove the tank to clean around the filter on the pickup . It was covered with that gooey nasty sludge . Cleaned it set it back up and all is well .
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Glad you got the wiring sorted out . Well,with my problem I decided to go through the plow . I checked all the electrical connections , they were clean and greased . I also used a small flat screwdriver to slightly separate the split prongs .
Then I drained and removed the tank . Found the problem . Even though I drained and changed the fluid last spring I didnt remove the tank to clean around the filter on the pickup . It was covered with that gooey nasty sludge . Cleaned it set it back up and all is well .
My issues are this plow has never been used. I guy I bought it from bought it tried to put it on his truck and had a leak between the resevior and the motor. He had a new motor sent to him and never put it on. So the plow is 6 years old but never used. We basically installed it as a new plow. The motor was absolutely brand new no fluid in it yet, All the wiring never saw the light of day. I don't know what it could be. It only bucks going down does that pin point where the problem could be? I am going to double check all the split prongs. I don't think it could be anything else????
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Matt . In the owners manual under trouble shooting .....
Plow desends in a jerking motion

1 Incorrect flow control setting

Loosen the flow control set screw adjust the flow until plow operates properly then reset the set screw

2. Oil weight is to light
I use Fisher oil never had a problem

3. Air in system
Raise and lower to the max

4. Possible internal in cylinder bypassing ?
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Bill your on target with the first one. Flow control valve can be a PITA to set. I've got mine out on my back blade. Goes down a little fast but works good otherwise. As far as fluid Fisher/Western/Blizzard all work well in them. I run a synthetic in mine. J
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Matt . In the owners manual under trouble shooting .....
Plow desends in a jerking motion

1 Incorrect flow control setting

Loosen the flow control set screw adjust the flow until plow operates properly then reset the set screw

2. Oil weight is to light
I use Fisher oil never had a problem

3. Air in system
Raise and lower to the max

4. Possible internal in cylinder bypassing ?
Thanks, Didn't think about checking the trouble shooting section. I will check it out when my buddy gets his new hitch put on. He left the blade at a customers house Lets just say the hitch was a little rusty.
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