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Dodge 3500/ Blizzard 810

I finally got my new 810 mounted to the 3500. I'm having ground clearance problems with the plow installed and up. Seems as though the bracket for the lift cylinder occationally scrapes the road (especially if theres a big crown).

The truck is equipped with the heavy duty snow plow prep group. Any idea of the spring specs/part no? I've searched around and don't know what's installed for that option. Does OEM have a heavier spring (47/48's?)

is the solution to add a spacer? Who /where do i order?

As a side note: the push beam could be raised some as it's on it's lowest setting and the a-frame sits low at the truck side. I was thinking the spacers/springs would be a better solution than raising the push beam. Also, no counter weigt in the bed yet, but that won't get me the lift i need.


Any one else having this type of issue with the dodge 3500 QC?
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:15 AM
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update

spoke with a dealer and this is what i cam up with for my current springs:

p/n 52113985aa left side? spring code ZEK
52113986aa right side? spring code ZTK
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With your plow on the ground , how much clearance do you have between the plow mount and the ground?
With the diesel you all ready have the heavy springs.
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solution

i ordered up a pair of coil spring spacers. supposed to lift the front by 2".

http://www.suspensionconnection.com/...on/329003.html
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Old 12-06-2005, 09:37 AM
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The 2" spacer will give you more height,but will not increase the spring rate,which is what you need to carry the weight.

Add the older style 47/48 spring combo (yes,they do fit the newer trucks even though the dealer says no),and a set of Timbrens.

After the new springs are on,and the truck has your ballast in the back (7-800 lbs) set the push beam so the a-frame is level or just slightly higher in the rear (truck side).Spec is 12.5 inches to the center of the pin holes.A little higher will not hurt,and give you more clearance.
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Chris,
thanks for your response. As far as spring rate, the truck only drops 1 1/4" with the plow up. (at the wheel well) That seems to be resonable. I figured 2" more clearance with the spacers would help. It's my understanding that i've got the highest spring rates available. What are the differences between what i have and the 47/48's? (longer spring?) I know it's a work truck but i do want some suspension.

could you provide the specs/ complete part number for evaluation?
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Chris I was wondering the same thing. Can you give us more details?
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Part numbers are 52039047 and 52039048 for the springs.The 48 goes on the drivers side to offset the extra weight of the driver,steering box and pump,fuel tank,brake booster\master cyl etc.

The 48 spring is rated at 2236 lbs and the 47 is 2036 lbs.I have two 48's on my truck.IIRC the newer style springs are rated at 2100 lbs or so.I do know they are not as strong as the older 47/48 spring combo.

I have advised several members of this board to install the 47/48 combo on their newer Dodges,and are very happy with it.If you don't like it,I'll buy the springs back from you.
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I'd go ahead and run the 2" spacer,I just put mine back in.Ive run the 810 both ways,and the 2" spacers really help a lot with getting the plow frame nice and high off the ground.The stiffer springs would help even more,but it may make the truck sit too nose high.I have the 047/046 and the truck drops about an inch when raising the blade.Without the spacers,I almost got plow frame hung up last winter,that has never happened with the spacers.
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I'd go ahead and run the 2" spacer,I just put mine back in.Ive run the 810 both ways,and the 2" spacers really help a lot with getting the plow frame nice and high off the ground.The stiffer springs would help even more,but it may make the truck sit too nose high.I have the 047/046 and the truck drops about an inch when raising the blade.Without the spacers,I almost got plow frame hung up last winter,that has never happened with the spacers.
just curious....who's spacer are you running? Metal or plastic?
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I wouldnt run a plastic spacer with all that weight. I bought mine almost 3 yrs ago,they are steel,they look to be around 1/4" thick.I think they are Tough Countrys. I think they were 119.00,they should be around the same price or cheaper by now.
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JOhn,
got the spacers. They are tough contry metal ones. do i need an alignment when switching over? Can i install them with out taking the links off?
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No alignment needed,if the wheel is off you may want to adjust the drag link to get it straight,just do not touch the adjuster on the tie rods.I removed my sway bar end links,and lower shock bolts then jacked the truck by the plow frame until the suspension was toally unloaded.Remove the 3 tower bolts,and using a pry bar pry the axle down as far a you can,and side the shock up,and the spring should come right out bottom first.The hard part is gettingthe spring back in once you have the 2' spacer in place.I had to use a compressor on the pass side,I only had to compress it an inch or so,then it slide right in,but I was working alone.With a buddy prying you should be able to get it without the compressor.Just make sure your brake lines dont become banjo strings when your dropping the axle.
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I just did the 2 inch spacer on my 05. Was very easy and makes a huge difference. I think they were $85 shipped off of ebay. Very easy install also.
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Dave what is your next mod?
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is this what you guys mean by spacers?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/1994-2001-4WD-Dod...QQcmdZViewItem

the front of my 05 CTD Quad is hanging up a bit. Timbrens are going in next week, will spacers help as well?
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Dave what is your next mod?
Tod, NOt sure yet, but it looks like a AFE intake and a torque tube for sure, maybe an edge EZ, not sure yet on the box/power adder.
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is this what you guys mean by spacers?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/1994-2001-4WD-Dod...QQcmdZViewItem

the front of my 05 CTD Quad is hanging up a bit. Timbrens are going in next week, will spacers help as well?
Basically that is what we are talking about, here is one for your application about half the price, these are the same ones i just put in last week. Seem to work great and give you about 2 more inches of clearance:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Lev...QQcmdZViewItem
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Seem to work great and give you about 2 more inches of clearance:
Any effect on ride quality, with or without the plow on?

Thanks for the link, I think I'll order some up.
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I see no difference, all it does is space the spring 2 inches further down or if you want to say it brings the body 2 inches further off the frame/suspension, you are not changing springs for spring rates.
It does not need anything else, as far as shocks, trac bar brackets, sway bar end link brackets, i didnt even have to adjust the steering wheel or get an alignment. It tracks/drives perfect.
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Dave what is your next mod?
Tod, also on Weds, if we meet, Id like to get those subs and the amp wired up, maybe try to get my stobe lights installed or the air horns. There is just not enough time in the day.....
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