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Old 02-18-2007, 05:37 PM
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Unhappy problems with Boss spreader

I purchased a Boss tailgate spreader model TGS1100, the unit that has a stand and raises and lowers off the truck with a button. That feature is great. The spreader is brand new as of almost 2 months ago. I put in about 6 bags of rock salt through the topscreen, go to the truck to turn on and spread, then the overload light comes on. I have used North American Ice o way salt, and also cargill halite rock salt. It has done it with both products. This unit is supposed to spread bagged salt only. I am not happy at all. Boss dealer replaced the flapper chains connected to the auger shaft inside the hopper, still didn't work any better. This thing is supposed to hold 800 #, there would be no way I would put that much in it, I wish I could but am afraid that it would be too much weight on the auger and not spin at all. I can get out of the truck, go back and spin the spinner by hand when the overload light comes on and then go back to the truck and hit the switch and it usually takes off. This is bull crap, I should not have to be doing this. I spent 2 grand, if i were going to have these problems I would have bought a salt dogg plastic hopper v, or similar with an electric motor. I am not sure what else to do. Any body else have these problems or heard of this??????? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated, Thank You.
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Old 02-18-2007, 08:08 PM
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I wonder if it is a faulty controller? This has been doing it from day one? When you say "spin it by hand" do you mean you grab it and turn it with your hand? No wrench? It just seems like the overload is coming on too easy. I am not familiar with the controller. Does it have a "blast" button? If it does, and you hit that first, then turn it on, does it still show overload? I have a feeling something is telling the controller "overload" but it is not the salt. Did the dealer try another controller? This can't be happening with all of them. I think the electrical system needs to be checked thoroughly with a meter. It might even be an issue with the spreader motor.

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Old 02-19-2007, 04:40 AM
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I own one of these, and yes anything over 2 bags and you have to give it a nug to get it going. First and only boss product Ill ever buy. Ive had numerous problems with mine. They even drilled the hole in the tub in the wrong spot to attach to the frame!!! They blast on their own for the first five seconds when you first start it. I think they just have weak motors. JMO.
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Old 02-19-2007, 04:49 AM
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I guess there is the answer. Blast first, then on. That is how all the tailgate units (single stage) I have operated in the past worked best. Always hit blast to get going, then let it go at whatever setting you want to use. That's why I asked if it had the blast feature. Also from my experience, any setting lower than about 5 doesn't spread anything. I used the blast more than anything, tap, tap, tap.....

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Old 02-19-2007, 06:03 AM
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auto blast

the blast automatically comes on for a few seconds when the unit is first turned on. I turn the spinner by hand NO WRENCH, and yes it has pretty much done this from day one. I hate it and would not tell anybody to buy one unless my problems gets resolved
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Old 02-19-2007, 08:13 AM
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So, it does this just from the weight of the salt after loading? My SnowEx and others with the same spreader do exactly what you're saying if you load the spreader all the way, then drive or plow with the spreader loaded, the salt settles and the auger cant get going. But this only happens after driving loaded and the salt "settles". Sometimes after driving only a short distance it will start up without a problem, but on longer durations between spreading, you expect to have to get out and kick the spinner to get it flowing. If yours goes into overload without the salt having a chance to settle or "pack in" around the auger, something's wrong, take it back.
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Old 02-19-2007, 01:22 PM
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I own a TGS600 which is the smaller unit. I have similar problems as you describe and use the Hallite rock salt product. The problem only arises after driving around with the product in the hopper for a while before I get to my salting job. If I load and go to the site, It will start without a problem. The blast feature upon start is a pre-programmed feature. I too wish this feature was a little shorter in duration. You can loose a lot of product this way. I found that instead of turning the unit on and off each time I stop or turn around, I just turn the varible speed knob all the way to "0". Otherwise it will allways "burst" every time you stop and turn around. I never owned a salter before this one and I guess my expectations were different. I think all the similar salters from snow-ex to fisher to western that are also single stage do this as well.
What I worry about "hand starting" mine is that the auger is plastic and that I'll break it someday trying to get it going. Then I'll be a little extra annoyed
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Old 02-21-2007, 07:44 AM
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hopefully a fix

Had an appointment with the dealer today. They will be replacing the motor and the transmission tomorrow. I cant wait to see if this will help. I will post back after I get to use it with the new motor and transmission installed.
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i have had the same problem one time, i filled up at home with about 400lbs of bagged rock and when i got their the overload light came on, i just turned the spreader on and had to spin the unit once by hand and then it worked fine, it wasnt a big deal, still may talk to the dealer about it.
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Old 02-21-2007, 02:23 PM
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I bought a Buyers SUV spreader this year, it we can load it with 300lbs of bagged or bulk product, drive anywhere we want and spread with no issues.
I have been very impressed with this little spreader, and for under 600.00 dollars, it was a good buy.
So far this season it has spread 3 pallets of deicer with no issues. Easy on and off.
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hey urethane, is that the unit that just plugs into the cigarette lighter and runs
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Old 02-22-2007, 05:16 PM
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no next step up
actually has the typical variable speed controller, holds 300 lbs, fold down feature to get at the hatch of the blazer its on. Spread over 3 tons with it this year, is loaded right now and ready for action.
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Old 02-25-2007, 12:06 PM
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The motor and transmission was replaced the other day, and I got to salt with it yesterday and this morning. Still not working like I want it too. I don't think it would be too much to ask to have a 2 grand tailgate spreader work like it should. Maybe I should sell it and get the buyers spreader mentioned here. I put in 4 bags one time, and another time I put in 6 bags and both times I had to spin the spinner by hand to get it going. This is redickulous.
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Old 02-25-2007, 12:44 PM
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The Snow Ex tail gate units work great, but sometimes need a spin by hand when the hopper is allmost full, or with wet magic salt too. I would look at the Controller as well, this is usually were the short comings are. Karrier( a sponsor here) could probally take care of the problem. But youwill be spendy 500 bucks to fix it. I would bet you will have no more problems though.
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Old 02-25-2007, 12:45 PM
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The motor and transmission was replaced the other day, and I got to salt with it yesterday and this morning. Still not working like I want it too. I don't think it would be too much to ask to have a 2 grand tailgate spreader work like it should. Maybe I should sell it and get the buyers spreader mentioned here. I put in 4 bags one time, and another time I put in 6 bags and both times I had to spin the spinner by hand to get it going. This is redickulous.

I would like to suggest you try something quick before you give up on the spreader. Do you have a long set of Heavy Jumper cables #2AWG or #4 AWG that will reach from your battery to the rear plug at the spreader? if so, load it up and try putting the power from the jumper cables directly into the plug for the spreader and see if it has enough torque to spin it over then. If it does, then see what the voltage reading is with a voltmeter when you start it up and then compare it with the reading you get when you test it at the same point with the factory wiring installed.

If you don't have a long set of cables then if you have a fully charged battery or a friend with a truck to come up behind you then you can try it that way.

Sometimes the factory wiring is a bit on the light side (cheaper to buy smaller wire) and the voltage drop can cause the issue that you describe. If you find this to be the problem you can either install larger wire yourself or better yet buy a Rhino Power cable from your Karrier Vibrator and control Dealer.
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