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Old 10-13-2008, 06:58 AM
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Meyer E60 problem No power

Hey guys,
Been a while since I have last posted here. Hope everyone is doing good. Question. Just went out yesterday to check out my plow and found out it is not working. I have a Meyer stl 7.5 with E60 pump. Hooked the plow up then hooked up my touch pad controller and no power to the touch pad. I checked the in line fuse, it was good. Took my tester and made sure there was power coming in on the blue wire, that was good. Dont know what it could be. I took off the seloniod and cleaned all terminals and everything. Re installed and nothing.
Any ideas of what this could be. Cannot figure this out.
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Old 10-13-2008, 08:39 AM
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Sounds like the touchpad is bad. Unusual that it would go bad just sitting. Can you borrow a known good one from a friend and see if it works? Since power is there right up to the touchpad.... the only other thing would be a possible ground problem. The orange wire is the ground. The twin toggles don't use a ground, but the touchpad and Slik Stik need a good ground to work.

It is possible the ground wire got knocked off over the summer, or removed for some reason. Connect the test light to the ground where the orange wire goes, and then touch the blue wire pin in the plug.

I had a guy last year that had to be at the airport in 2 hours, and had to have his truck fixed so his guys could plow while he was gone. He was going nuts telling me that he doesn't care what it needs, just get it working. Found the wire from the battery to the motor solenoid disconnected. He had the power steering pump replaced a month or so before, and a new battery put in. They forgot to hook the wire back up.

Took me 2 minutes, no charge. He insisted on buying us coffee, and stuffed a 5 in my pocket.

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Old 10-14-2008, 01:06 PM
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Good story. Yeah, there were a couple of wires that were off, but put them back on. Everything is right except for the no power to the touch pad. I will definintely check the orange wire for ground. And if that is not it, then I am sure I can find someone to try out there pad on it.
Thanks for the info Chuck. Appreciate it!
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Old 10-14-2008, 01:24 PM
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It could be the On/Off switch on the touchpad too. DCLS had that problem last year. Not sure how he discovered that was the problem though. There is a Meyer part# for it. I stock aftermarket ones here. Quite a bit cheaper than OEM

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Old 10-19-2008, 08:48 AM
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Hey Chuck,
I found the intial problem. It was the ground and was not hooked up. Have no idea why, but I hooked it up and the touch pad is working.
But now a new problem. Getting nothing but a "clicking" noise when I try the lift or angle buttons. I thought it might be the selonoid and replaced it, but still the same clicking. All the wires on the selonoid seem in good shape and have a good connection. What would you suggest from here. Could this be a bad ground or something. I guess I am going to have my wife hold the button down and check the voltage coming off the selonoid to the pump motor and go from there. Any suggestions would be helpfull.
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Old 10-19-2008, 09:30 AM
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Hey Chuck,
I found the intial problem. It was the ground and was not hooked up. Have no idea why, but I hooked it up and the touch pad is working.
But now a new problem. Getting nothing but a "clicking" noise when I try the lift or angle buttons. I thought it might be the selonoid and replaced it, but still the same clicking. All the wires on the selonoid seem in good shape and have a good connection. What would you suggest from here. Could this be a bad ground or something. I guess I am going to have my wife hold the button down and check the voltage coming off the selonoid to the pump motor and go from there. Any suggestions would be helpfull.
Thanks!
Ok here is what I got when I tested it with the volt meter. On the one side going to selonoid I got 12 1/2 volts. But on the other side I am getting a 9.38 volts when my wife holds down the button. And this is a new selonoid I just put on it. And this is holding it both on the cable and the post on the selonoid. What do you think???
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Old 10-19-2008, 12:38 PM
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Did you try checking the plug between the truck and the pump? Sometimes you have to clean them real well,if that doesn't work try opening up the slots on the male pins.
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Old 10-19-2008, 06:11 PM
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Is this a single lug motor? If so, sounds like the motor lost it's ground. That is why back in 03 Meyer went to a 2 lug motor, with a jumper to the original base ground wire location, to ensure the valves are grounded too. It happened to my brothers E-60, lost the ground, solenoid just clicking.

Take a test light and hook it to the battery + and touch it to the motor housing. Then touch it to the ground bolt on the base of the E-60. Got a good ground in both places?

Also, 12.5 is low. Is this with the truck running? Should be around 14 or so. The 9 is not really enough to run the motor. Perfect example, got my brother's beater running 2 weeks ago. Disconnected the jumper cables, and the plow does not work. Hook them back up, and it does.

If the motor housing tests as a good ground, hook a jumper cable to the + on the battery, and touch the other end to the + post on the plow motor. If the ground is good, you will get a spark, and if the motor runs, then I would imagine there is a problem with the motor solenoid. The base of the motor solenoid must be grounded too for it to work properly.

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Ok thanks, will try that today and see what I come up with
and by the way, that was with the truck not running
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Thumbs down Highly Aggrevated Now!

(Just wrote this big note and totally forgot what you said about the solenoid. Now that I think about it, it was very rusty underneath where the selonoid is. I think I will run a ground wire from the battery to the metal base of solenoid to see what happens)
Chuck,
I just cant figure this out and I am hard headed and dont want to pay someone to fix unless absolutely necessary. I think of myself as highly mechanically inclined, but not so much with electrical issues.
So, this is were I am at. I started truck today and I, for some unknown reason, now have full voltage going to pump motor. I put the volt meter on the terminal post and was getting 14.12 off of the solenoid when I depressed the touch pad up button. I was by myself today so I took the jumper cables, just used to hold the wires of volt meter on the positive and negative wires on the motor and got the same reading. Still the clicking noise at the solenoid. I then took the negative jumper cable only and hooked one side to battery negative and hooked the other to the negative on the motor to by pass any bad ground wire and still the clicking. And my motor does have a negative wire on the motor and then a jumper wire over to the pump housing.
Finally, and you can tell me if I am wrong, but I hooked both the negative and positive on battery with the cables and went with the other side of cables to the motor on pump. I took other end and hooked the negative up to negative on motor and touched the postive to the positive terminal on motor and got no turn over, not even a spark. So now I dont know where to go from here. I thought for sure that would turn the motor over. Even took the motor off. A little corrosion inside and the 2 long 10mm bolts were kind of rusted, but all in all did not look bad. Armature turned freely so I did not see anything wrong with it.
Any advice where to go from here. About ready to shoot the thing. LOL
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Jeff
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Old 10-20-2008, 01:41 PM
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**********Update*********** I did what you said with putting test light on postive terminal on battery and put on both negative terminal of motor and the casing and both showed good on test light. I then put one side on of test light on positive terminal and other on negative terminal on motor and hit the touch pad and got good light when I depressed the touch pad. Please dont tell me with only being 4 years old this motor is bad. Because that is what I am coming up with.
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Old 10-20-2008, 01:43 PM
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If you've connected the motor directly to the battery and it didn't run then the motor is the problem.
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If you've connected the motor directly to the battery and it didn't run then the motor is the problem.
100% agree. All your tesing leads to one thing. A dead motor.
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:21 AM
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Ok, thanks guys. Going to spend more on this stupid thing.
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:48 AM
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on the e 60 you should be abel to replace the brushes. but first check that they slide in and out. they might be hung up , and not tuching the armature.
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